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Topic: RIP Phil Spector |
Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Earnest Bovine
From: Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2021 9:35 am
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A guitarist who normally plays in a very strong and self-assured manner told me that he found it difficult to play well with a loaded gun pointed at his head. |
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Gary Hoetker
From: California, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2021 10:25 am
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One thing is certain about him. Some of the great music in our time is enveloped in his Wall of Sound. He is an innovator. |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 17 Jan 2021 11:31 am
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I met him once, but didn't realize i was talking to him.
I was working at a music store in Hollywood that catered to the entertainment industry. Well known actors and Musicians stars used to come in all the time.
One day this guy came in and asked when the LP of River Deep Mountain High by Ike and Tina Turner would be released. I told him I didn't know, but I loved the single, and what a great producer Phil Spector was.
The next day I received a test pressing of the LP and a note telling me that he appreciated my enthusiasm for his work.
I kept the record for years, but eventually gave it to Joe Goldmark. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Mike Neer
From: NJ
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Posted 17 Jan 2021 6:13 pm
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The guy was such a psychopath. He had a gold coffin in his basement with a glass top and told Ronnie Spector if she ever left him, he’d display her corpse in it _________________ http://www.steelinstruction.com/
http://mikeneer.com |
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Fred Treece
From: California, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2021 6:44 pm
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There is no controversy. He was batpoo crazy. He died in prison. He should have been in a psyche ward long before he killed that young woman. He left a legacy of great record productions that we who must remain are left to compartmentalize in the same part of our brains with the memories of OJ Simpson’s football career and Bill Cosby’s comedy. |
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LJ Eiffert
From: California, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2021 6:58 pm
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I am not going to say anything about my Gold Star Recording days with Stan Ross & Dave Gold about Phil Spector. How ever the Gun? RIP (Phil) Dude |
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William Gallagher
From: California, USA
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Posted 18 Jan 2021 8:57 am
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Hey Mike, did he repurpose that coffin for personal use? Hopefully with the glass top... _________________ '75 Emmons p/p, Duesenberg Alamo, Dobro with Hipshot, Nashville 112, Little Walter 22/50, Fender Blues Deluxe, and enough effects gear to fill a dump truck. |
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Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Cartwright Thompson
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Posted 20 Jan 2021 2:13 pm
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He was batshit crazy, and I heard that he died of COVID. |
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Kenny Davis
From: Great State of Oklahoma
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Posted 20 Jan 2021 2:20 pm
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Don't forget all the Pedal Steel he used in his sessions! _________________ Best lyric in a country song: "...One more, Moon..." |
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William Gallagher
From: California, USA
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Posted 20 Jan 2021 5:16 pm
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Interesting article Joachim. You have to wonder along with his pathological narcissism what secrets, fears and inner demons he fought with - honestly, why on earth in this business would someone need a gun and body guard? _________________ '75 Emmons p/p, Duesenberg Alamo, Dobro with Hipshot, Nashville 112, Little Walter 22/50, Fender Blues Deluxe, and enough effects gear to fill a dump truck. |
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Fred Treece
From: California, USA
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Posted 20 Jan 2021 5:58 pm
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William Gallagher wrote: |
Interesting article Joachim. You have to wonder along with his pathological narcissism what secrets, fears and inner demons he fought with - honestly, why on earth in this business would someone need a gun and body guard? |
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic because it looks like you prefaced your own question with the answer. All those traits of his character were fueled and amplified by drug and alcohol abuse. It’s oddly logical and sad to think of his approach to music production (More! More! More!) as being aligned with an addictive personality disorder. This, combined with power tripping on his huge success, eventually lead to paranoia and violence. |
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Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Kenny Davis
From: Great State of Oklahoma
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Posted 22 Jan 2021 6:08 am
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Joachim - help me out a little bit, I'm not that familiar with these recordings. Give me the difference between the two versions. _________________ Best lyric in a country song: "...One more, Moon..." |
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Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Posted 22 Jan 2021 1:06 pm
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Kenny, if my ears don't mistake me, the second (the original) version has more reverb added. George Harrison's "All Things Must Pass" is a mystery to me, in terms where it was recorded. London, Los Angeles, Nashville?
All I know is that Pete Drake was on a few songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHX-MFg2Zqw _________________ Fender Kingman, Sierra Crown D-10, Evans Amplifier, Soup Cube. |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Posted 22 Jan 2021 1:19 pm
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The "All Things Must Pass" album was recorded in London. Phil Spector co-producer, George Harrison producer. Pete Drake flew to London to do the sessions. George wanted Spector to co-produce because he liked what he did with the Beatles "Let it Be" album. Spector produced solo albums for Lennon and Harrison. McCartney didn't like Spector's "overproduction" on the "Let it Be" album, especially on "The Long and Winding Road". Years later Sir Paul remixed and released a stripped down version of the "Let it Be" album. _________________ My Site / My YouTube Channel
25 Songs C6 Lap Steel / 25 MORE Songs C6 Lap Steel / 16 Songs, C6, A6, B11 / 60 Popular Melodies E9 Pedal Steel
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Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Posted 22 Jan 2021 1:25 pm
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Thank you, Doug. _________________ Fender Kingman, Sierra Crown D-10, Evans Amplifier, Soup Cube. |
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Kenny Davis
From: Great State of Oklahoma
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Posted 22 Jan 2021 1:47 pm
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Joachim - After I posted, I listened closer to the two versions. I believe that the extra reverb was the main difference.
I started getting into Pedal Steel "seriously" about the time this was recorded, however I was a traditional country guy. My influences were Tom Brumley, Lloyd, Rugg, and Emmons. However, I did buy Ringo's Beaucoups of Blues album because Pete Drake and others were on it. I thought it to be a novel thing having this terrible British vocalist being supported by these great pickers! Since I didn't get into that type of music, I didn't realize that Lloyd had recorded with McCartney, and Pete with Harrison around that timeframe.
There's no doubt Spector made his mark. At least he was smart enough to let Pete Drake be Pete Drake! (Did you catch the Lay Lady Lay lick he used?) Looking back, it's kinda cool that these two were involved like they were since Pete became an incredibly successful producer himself.
I have to admit the only reason I posted earlier is to mention this and other deaths posted that are contrary to what b0b wants on this particular forum section... _________________ Best lyric in a country song: "...One more, Moon..." |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Posted 24 Jan 2021 3:34 am
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Thanks for the information, Doug. I looked at the credits on my (triple)record and it seems that half of Derek The Dominoes were involved in making this record.
Kenny, I've noticed the "Lay Lady Lay" lick also. _________________ Fender Kingman, Sierra Crown D-10, Evans Amplifier, Soup Cube. |
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Jon Zimmerman
From: California, USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2021 1:04 pm Inner Demons
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That “Gold Star site is now a strip mall parking lot on Santa Monica Blvdâ€....such that the ‘layering’ of asphalt seems an appropriate legacy.. like many things not here anymore. |
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