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Topic: San Diego, 1947: Who's the other guy? |
Brad Bechtel
From: San Francisco, CA
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Posted 22 Apr 2020 6:00 pm
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San Diego 1947:
Ernest Tubb, Eddie Kirk, Roy Hogsed, Butterball Paige, Tennessee Ernie Ford, and an unidentified individual. Anyone know who the guy on the far right is?
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 22 Apr 2020 6:10 pm
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Looks a lot like Leon McAuliffe, to me. |
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Brad Bechtel
From: San Francisco, CA
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Posted 22 Apr 2020 8:59 pm
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No, it’s definitely not Leon. _________________ Brad’s Page of Steel
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Joe Naylor
From: Avondale, Arizona, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2020 9:38 pm
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no it is NOT Leon _________________ Joe Naylor, Avondale, AZ (Phoenix) Announcer/Emcee owner www.steelseat.com *** OFFERING SEATS AND Effects cases with or without legs and other stuff ****** -Desert Rose Guitar S-10, Life Member of the Arizona Carport Pickers Assoc., Southwest Steel Guitar Assoc., Texas Steel Guitar Assoc., GA Steel Guitar Assoc., KS Steel Guitar Assoc. (Asleep at the Steel) tag line willed to me by a close late friend RIP |
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Rich Sullivan
From: Nelson, NH 03457
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Posted 23 Apr 2020 1:53 am
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Smokey Rogers? |
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Bill Fisher
From: Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2020 2:26 am
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You may be right, Rich. He died there in 1993, and was playing there in the 40-50's time frame.
Bill |
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Brad Bechtel
From: San Francisco, CA
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Posted 23 Apr 2020 8:32 am
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It doesn't look like Smokey Rogers to me, based on an internet search. _________________ Brad’s Page of Steel
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Larry Petree
From: Bakersfield. Ca. USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2020 10:48 am person
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This is just a wild guess, the guy on the right looks like a very young Billy Mize, But he was usually in Bakersfield or LA area. |
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Landon Jarrel
From: Space
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Posted 23 Apr 2020 11:55 am
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It is not Smokey Rogers. |
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Lee Baucum
From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 23 Apr 2020 3:18 pm
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And look at that guitar!
Looks like maybe a Martin 0-45 or O-42.
Jimmy Rodgers' guitar? |
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Brad Bechtel
From: San Francisco, CA
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Posted 23 Apr 2020 5:01 pm
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I'm thinking that's Leon Rhodes on the right side. _________________ Brad’s Page of Steel
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Lee Baucum
From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 23 Apr 2020 5:12 pm
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Jack or Bill Drake? |
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Scott Thomas
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Posted 23 Apr 2020 7:40 pm
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He strikes me as a sideman, but why would he be in a group picture with those singers?
(And yes, I think Ernest Tubb is holding Jimmy Rodger's custom made 1927 Martin 000-45. Rodger's widow loaned it to him when Jimmy passed away and Tubb played it for the next 40 years. It has "thanks" written on the back of it.) |
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Dave Mudgett
From: Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 23 Apr 2020 7:53 pm
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Brad Bechtel wrote: |
I'm thinking that's Leon Rhodes on the right side. |
I agree that it does resemble Leon. But if that picture is really from 1947, then that would make Leon 15 years old, having started playing guitar one year earlier, and he joined ET's band in 1960 - https://www.vintageguitar.com/2858/leon-rhodes/ |
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Brad Bechtel
From: San Francisco, CA
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Posted 24 Apr 2020 2:11 am
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Dave Mudgett wrote: |
Brad Bechtel wrote: |
I'm thinking that's Leon Rhodes on the right side. |
I agree that it does resemble Leon. But if that picture is really from 1947, then that would make Leon 15 years old, having started playing guitar one year earlier, and he joined ET's band in 1960 - https://www.vintageguitar.com/2858/leon-rhodes/ |
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Roy McKinney
From: Ontario, OR
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Posted 24 Apr 2020 6:25 am
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Not Billy Mize, he would have been 18 in that picture. |
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Norman Evans
From: Tennessee
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 26 Apr 2020 4:02 pm
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Still wondering about this guy...maybe we're wrong thinking he was from Tubb's band? Could'a been another singer, maybe...Rex Allen?
Or...Tex Williams?
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Mitch Drumm
From: Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 26 Apr 2020 5:04 pm
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I don't think it's anybody yet mentioned.
Of the 5 known guys, only 2 have any known connection to the Tubb band.
The other 3 are well known LA guys.
The unknown guy could well be LA as well.
Are the 2 guys shown below the same person??
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Will Houston
From: Tempe, Az
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Posted 27 Apr 2020 10:49 am
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how do you know the pic is from 1947? I don't think it is ET looks older than 33 and EF looks older than 28. Not thinking about this pic I pulled up a Texas Troubador vid on utube this morning with Leon Rhodes on guitar and if that ain't Leon in that pic....I don't know ?? |
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Mitch Drumm
From: Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 27 Apr 2020 11:17 am
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Leon Rhodes in 1949; the year he turned 17.
Heavy eyebrows, broad nose.
I don't think so.
I agree that the 1947 date is dubious, but certainly possible.
Roy Hogsed and Eddie Kirk never recorded until mid 1947.
Ernie Ford first recorded in 1949, although he was certainly active in LA before that.
I also agree that Ford looks older than 28, but that can be deceiving............Roy Hogsed, third from left, is only 10 months younger than Ernie.
Eddie Kirk is 1 month younger than Ford, but those sunken cheeks means he is one of those guys who could buy beer at 15. He looks 40 in this pic, but he's 28 if 1947 is correct.
How old is the guy on the far right?
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Will Houston
From: Tempe, Az
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Posted 27 Apr 2020 11:51 am
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You got a good one going here Brad |
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scott murray
From: Asheville, NC
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Posted 27 Apr 2020 7:38 pm
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no idea but I'd believe Rex Allen
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Craig A Davidson
From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 3 May 2020 7:35 am
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If Butterball is in the picture then the guy on the end would not be Leon Rhodes. |
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