Curious about weight of guitars

Billy Murdoch · From: Glasgow, Scotland, U.K.

I was speaking to a guy the other day who has a D10 Emmons which He may be selling.I have no interest in buying this instrument but I became curious about the weight of steel guitars He said it weighed a ton and did not give an accurate figure.
What are the heaviest weights of various instruments? I heard that Sho Bud D 10 was very heavy,is a Franklin D10 weighty ? any others which need a semi truck to transport
Best regards
Billy

Gene Tani · From: Pac NW

Oldy but goody. Course you can get a split case like that thread says, carry legs, pedal bar, rods etc separately.

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=235666

and https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=2895517
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Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

I have a Franklin D-10 and a GFI Ultra D-10. I have split cases for both (made of same material). Both the guitar bodies, in the case, weigh 46.2 lbs each. I didn't weigh the cases with the pedal bar, rods and legs as the cases are not the same physical size.
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Erv Niehaus · From: Litchfield, MN, USA

Jack,
That surprises me.
I thought some guys were buying GFI's because of the lighter weight. Very Happy

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Larry Bressington · From: Nebraska

Most old school steels in the D10 weigh approx 70-80lbs in the case. A lot of that weight is in the case, i'd go with a plastic ABS case. Bare bones D10 out of the case approx 50-60 lbs up or down.

It's doable, split the cases with modern bulletproof plastic ones, get alloy legs, carry other accesories in a seperate tote, get a 2 wheeled cart.
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Ken Byng · From: Southampton, England

I have an Emmons push pull 8 + 5. It weighs nothing like my first two ZBs which were incredibly heavy. My D10 Sho~Bud Pro 111 is fairly heavy, but not excessively so. I have split cases for both my Emmons and my Sho~Bud plus my Zum. I love split cases and they do the job really well.
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Brian Hollands · From: Geneva, FL USA

I'm working on an ST12 push pull. Shipping weight in the case was 76lbs. I'd guess the box and packing materials were no more than 4 lbs.
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Bill Cunningham · From: Atlanta, Ga. USA

My Mullen G2â€™s have 9+9 and I think they are about 60 lbs in the stock case. I definitely know that the body in a Red Dirt flight case is 62 lbs. because I have shipped it and airline checked it a few times.

I believe a 9+9 Emmons PP is about 90 lbs in the case, but not sure.
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Garry Vanderlinde · From: CA

My old (young man) rig: '66 Emmons D-10 = 64# in case.

New (old man) rig: S-10 GFI keyless = 44# in case.

It's funny how 64#'s, 40 years ago seemed lighter than 44#'s now days!

Ian Rae · From: Redditch, England

Me too, Garry.
At school I was taught that weights and measures are constant, but it was a lie.
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K Maul · From: Hadley, NY/Hobe Sound, FL

Heaviest steel in the world. Baldwin Crossover. About 90lbs. But SO pretty!

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Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

Probably heavier than that Crossover was my Fender 2000 pedal steel. It was so heavy that it came with split cases from the factory.
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K Maul · From: Hadley, NY/Hobe Sound, FL

Ian Rae · From: Redditch, England

Pedal steel guitars have got smarter.

My 1960s D10 was built like a battleship, sounded great, stayed in tune, but I couldn't lift it into the car.

Modern builders have figured out how to get the strength in the places it's needed while lightening the load elsewhere, which I guess is the object of all machinery development.

My Excel is an 8x8 uni so there's a lot of hardware underneath but it's less than 40lb in the case. Although my Williams has a heavier case, the actual guitar is just as light. Both sound great (different, but great) and stay in tune.
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Larry Allen · From: Kapaa, Kauai,Hawaii

Even a case of beer is heavier every year!..My 2015 Excel S10 is 21 lbs, case is 12lbs....but Iâ€™m not going to Lite beer! Very Happy

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Mike Perlowin · From: Los Angeles CA

I never weighed my Millennium. but I seem to remember that the late Al Marcus once wrote that his weighed 19 pounds, without the case.
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Len Amaral · From: Rehoboth,MA 02769

Jerry Overstreet · From: Louisville Ky

I don't really know the figures, but of the several I've owned, best as I can recall, they break down heaviest to lightest this way:

Baldwin x-over
2 Sierra 8+7 gearless elegante 14
3 or 4 Mullen PRP D10s
Derby D10 or Emmons p/p D10 toss up.
Zum D10
Lamar D10 keyless #1, short but wide.
MCI Rangexpander D10
Carter D10
Williams keyless D10

Mark McCornack · From: California, USA

I hazard to guess this one outweighs the player by a fair bit. Four handles (by extrapolation) and it looks like they chose Plaster of Paris or stuco to form the apron. That would have been my choice!
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Kevinâ€™s Baldwin Crossover weighed around 125 pounds when I dropped it off at the UPS shipping dock. Of course I also built a sturdy plywood coffin for it to endure the travels across country, and that added a bit too.

Richard Stoops · From: Ohio, USA

I have an Emmons LLG2 and a Rittenberry Light which was built for Mickey Adams. Can't tell you the exact weights, but the Rittenberry is lighter than the Emmons. Both are SD10's. Both are a lot lighter than the Wilcox I started out with. When the UPS guy delivered the Wilcox he sat it on the front deck. When I tried to pick it up the first time I thought he had nailed it to the floor. The guitar wasn't so bad by itself, but the case weighed a Texas sized ton. Beware of the weight of the case.
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Bill Terry · From: Bastrop, TX

I've got two D-10 P/Ps, a '67 and '66, both bolt-ons. The '67 is peculiarly light in my experience with several other P/Ps I've owned, 41.2 lbs. with steel legs. I bought some aluminum legs and I'd bet it's closer to 40 lbs. now. The invoice number '66 is 44.6 lbs. with steel legs, also tending toward the light side I think.

Both ring and sustain great, probably the best two Emmons I've owned. Is it the 60's wood maybe?

Garry Vanderlinde · From: CA

Hey Bill, what's the invoice # on your '66?
Mine is 2255.

Bob Hoffnar · From: Austin, Tx

Franklin D10 without the case 36 lbs
Emmons Legrande III D10 without case 41 lbs
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Bill Terry · From: Bastrop, TX

Hey Garry, 2542.. depending on which expert you believe, some say that may even be an early '67. Whatev.. Smile

David Mitchell · From: Tyler, Texas

I've owned about everything and I'd have to say the Fender 2000 was my heaviest even in split cases and the MSA D-12 Lacquer Classic with 10 knee levers was a close second. The Fender had no knee levers but I think they are still worth owning one today for that classic sound. They sound like no other with a top end that shimmers. It's built out of 1" ash mounted in a cast iron frame that weighs a ton. Fender fixed the cabinet drop problem in the early 1960's. Laughing

I can't believe people are tearing them apart and parting them out on eBay. Steel guitar ignorance I suppose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hngc9nBpaLA

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