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Regan Branch


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Post  Posted 28 Dec 2019 6:54 am    
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I'm a beginner BIAB user. Even with Ray Price shuffles, when I load something up it just sounds cheezy as hell. Like midi notes on really bad vst's. Can anyone help me get my tracks sounding better?
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 28 Dec 2019 8:40 am    
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Pete Bailey


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Seattle, WA
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2019 8:56 am    
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It also depends on whether you chose a midi style or a real style. Try sorting by real styles when you pick your style, they all begin with an _ underscore.

You can choose to show only real styles in the style picker with a selection under the type column.
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Norman Evans


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Tennessee
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2019 4:43 pm    
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Try CTRYSWS.STY style for Ray Price.

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Jim Fogle


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Winston-Salem, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 29 Dec 2019 2:14 pm    
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The Ray Price Band-in-a-Box styles available from this forum have 8 midi styles. So the instrument sounds are generated by a midi sound module for playback of midi data. It will be helpful to know what midi sound modules Band-in-a-Box (BiaB) uses for playback.

With BiaB open press the pc keyboard keys "Control + E" at the same time or navigate to "Options" > "Preferences ...". Now press the "MIDI Driver" button in the middle of the top row of buttons to open the "MIDI/Audio Drivers Setup" window.

What is listed for the MIDI Output Driver? Do you have "Use VSTi/DXi Synth" checked? If so what is listed in the "Synthesizer / Sound Card" window at the top right?
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b0b


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Post  Posted 29 Dec 2019 4:39 pm    
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I export BIAB files as MIDI and pull them into GarageBand to get the good sounds.
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Jim Fogle


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Winston-Salem, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 1 Jan 2020 5:37 pm    
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b0b wrote:
I export BIAB files as MIDI and pull them into GarageBand to get the good sounds.


bOb, Great idea. Of course GarageBand is a DAW included free with the Apple MacIntosh.

If Regan or another Band-in-a-Box user is using a Windows pc computer they may want to take a look at Cakewalk by BandLab. Cakewalk is a free DAW for computers using 64 bit Windows 7 or higher. A nice sounding midi sound module called TTS-1 is included with Cakewalk. TTS-1 also works with 64 bit Band-in-a-Box.

The easiest solution is still to use the midi sound module tools included with Band-in-a-Box. However PG Music has used multiple sound modules at different times and presently ships two, one 32 bit and one 64 bit.
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b0b


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Post  Posted 1 Jan 2020 10:36 pm    
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Here are some songs that I did using that method (BIAB Arrow MIDI file Arrow GarageBand): https://soundcloud.com/b0b/sets/rhythm-tracks-1
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Jim Fogle


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Post  Posted 2 Jan 2020 9:41 am     Nice Midi Tunes bOb
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bOb, Thanks for sharing the link to your SoundCloud songs. I'm "following" you now.

Some of the songs I know but most of them it was my first time hearing. The two I know are "In My Life" and "Caravan".

If you enjoy playing to Beatles, Steely Dan, various country and jazz midi tunes a good source are the general midi sequences David Barnes published on his website. You can check it out here: https://davidbmidi.com/index.html
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David Weisenthal

 

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Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 2 Jan 2020 12:51 pm    
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b0b, why does that make it sound less cheezy than the Biab alone? Better midi processer?
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA
Post  Posted 2 Jan 2020 3:46 pm    
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The software instruments in GarageBand are definitely better, and they also allow you to add effects. GB gives you full control over panning and volume automation for mixing. Another big plus is the ability to edit the parts that BIAB generates. As a bass player, I often disagree with BIAB's note choices in the bass line, so I usually fix them.
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David Weisenthal

 

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Post  Posted 2 Jan 2020 4:04 pm     Re: New to me 1969 Revell setup
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Thanks b0b, I've never looked into GB even though I own it. 😰
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