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Topic: Zum Hybrid Changer ?? |
Bob Snelgrove
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san jose, ca
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Posted 5 Oct 2019 11:37 am |
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On my new Hybrid, pedal 4 moves 2 rods on the bottom row of the E9, string 10 and not sure on the other one, but nothing changes. This is how I got it, nothing has been messed with. Any ideas?
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Paul Norman
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Washington, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 5 Oct 2019 12:14 pm
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It could be a Franklin Change along with a vertical knee lever lowering 5 a whole step. If so it should lower string 6 a whole step.
Franklin change lowers 5, 6, and 10 whole step. |
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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Posted 5 Oct 2019 12:18 pm
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| Paul Norman wrote: |
It could be a Franklin Change along with a vertical knee lever lowering 5 a whole step. If so it should lower string 6 a whole step.
Franklin change lowers 5, 6, and 10 whole step. |
Yeah but it doesn't do anything. |
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Paul Norman
From:
Washington, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 5 Oct 2019 12:23 pm
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See if it is unhooked from string 6 or 5?
Parts could be missing. |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 5 Oct 2019 5:27 pm
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| If you can’t get her fixed I will take her off your lucky hands congratulations on one of the most sought after steels in pedal steel history. |
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Ron Pruter
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 5 Oct 2019 6:49 pm
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Bob, does either of these rods run from changer to a fixed point? RP
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Emmons SKH Le Grande, '73 Fender P/J bass, Tick tack bass, Regal high strung, USA Nashville 112. |
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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Posted 5 Oct 2019 8:20 pm
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| Ron Pruter wrote: |
| Bob, does either of these rods run from changer to a fixed point? RP |
I'll check tomorrow. Only played it one night and didn't get under the hood.
thx |
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Danny Letz
From:
Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 7 Oct 2019 3:55 am
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| If the rod goes to the cross brace under the guitar it is a return compensater. If it goes to a bell crank it’s probably for split tuning. Aren’t the nylon nuts colored? If you have a Franklin pedal, the splits on those strings are done with the double rod method, split screws won’t work it that situation. I think the nylon nuts on return compensators are black. Split tuning nuts are blue. |
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Danny Letz
From:
Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 7 Oct 2019 4:05 am
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| Oh and Bob, if you don’t know yet, save yourself a bunch of trouble and don’t turn the brass nuts on the changer. They are factory set & secured with loctite. |
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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Posted 7 Oct 2019 6:26 am
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| Danny Letz wrote: |
| If the rod goes to the cross brace under the guitar it is a return compensater. If it goes to a bell crank it’s probably for split tuning. Aren’t the nylon nuts colored? If you have a Franklin pedal, the splits on those strings are done with the double rod method, split screws won’t work it that situation. I think the nylon nuts on return compensators are black. Split tuning nuts are blue. |
Plain Nylon, bottom row. No Franklin pedal. I thought the splits were done on top at the back of the changer?
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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Posted 7 Oct 2019 6:27 am
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| Danny Letz wrote: |
| Oh and Bob, if you don’t know yet, save yourself a bunch of trouble and don’t turn the brass nuts on the changer. They are factory set & secured with loctite. |
So I have heard!
thx |
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Danny Letz
From:
Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 7 Oct 2019 10:10 am
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| I think normally splits are set at the screws at the top of the changer. My Hybrid has splits on 5,6, & 10. Those are the same strings changed by the Franklin pedal. When I asked Bruce why my splits were tuned with the double rods, he said because of the Franklin pedal. Maybe whatever the questionable nut is can be located by seeing where that rod connects under the guitar. Maybe it has been backed off to not activate? |
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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Posted 7 Oct 2019 11:33 am
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Figured it out. Strings 5&10 nylon tuners were backed out for some reason. String 10 lowered a whole step but string 5 wouldn't so I just backed them off for now.
bob |
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Ron Pruter
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 7 Oct 2019 12:27 pm
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Bob, cool chord alert! Drop 10 a whole step and apply
R/K/R all the way over. A beautiful A major 69. Strum up from the bottom. Enjoy!
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Emmons SKH Le Grande, '73 Fender P/J bass, Tick tack bass, Regal high strung, USA Nashville 112. |
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Danny Letz
From:
Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 8 Oct 2019 6:56 am
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| Maybe it was rigged Franklin as described in the first reply to your post & had no splits. Possibility I guess? |
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