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Topic: New Fender Tone Master Twin Reverbs....only 33lbs! |
Rick Heins
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Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 12 Dec 2019 7:14 pm |
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| John Russell wrote: |
The Stage 100 DSP Fender head I bought some years ago. The Stage 100 DSP was mediocre and used prices will reflect that.
The one with the blonde tolex is the much more desirable Tone Master 100w head from the '90s. You'll have to pony up for that all-tube TM 100. Prices are in the $1200+ range. Or find an original Showman head.
Fender currently makes a Mustang 150w head with the TV-style control panel--not easy to see when you're sitting down. |
John, the Stage 100 is an entirely different amp and the TM is definitely not the same technology. We've come so far with digital amps!
The original Tone Master is also an entirely different amp and known for it's distortion and doesn't have reverb. I know some like heads instead of combos but honestly we sell so few of them that it doesn't make sense to make the TM Twin as a head at this time. |
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John Russell
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Austin, Texas
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 7:41 am Fender head amps
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Thanks, Rick. Your company has a rich heritage and most of us have owned a Fender amp. Or two. I could be persuaded to try the new Twin--if it weighs the same as my Cube 80. (With two speakers?!!)  |
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Nathan Guilford
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Oklahoma City
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 8:01 am 15
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Rick - thanks for your involvement in this post. My question is if there's any plan for expanding the line of Tone Masters -- Like a single neo 15"? Like the old vibrosonic or the more recent Reissue custom 15?
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Rick Heins
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 8:51 am Re: 15
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| Nathan Guilford wrote: |
| Rick - thanks for your involvement in this post. My question is if there's any plan for expanding the line of Tone Masters -- Like a single neo 15"? Like the old vibrosonic or the more recent Reissue custom 15? |
Nathan,
No plans on a 15" as of yet but maybe a limited edition version in the future. Unfortunately, we're the only folks that love the 15" speaker and our numbers are pretty low these days.  |
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Lee Warren
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 9:48 am
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Hey Rick,
Forgive me if this has already been asked, but will there be ‘head only’ versions of the TM Deluxe and Twin Reverbs?
Thanks!
Lee |
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Rick Heins
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 10:15 am
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| Lee Warren wrote: |
Hey Rick,
Forgive me if this has already been asked, but will there be ‘head only’ versions of the TM Deluxe and Twin Reverbs?
Thanks!
Lee |
Lee,
As of now, there will not be head versions. We just don't sell very many heads of anything. Players mostly prefer combos these days. Sorry. |
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 10:59 am
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Rick Heins
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 11:02 am
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| Greg Cutshaw wrote: |
| Tube smell generator! |
Haha, the new Febreeze "Tubes Cooking" smell spray included with every amp! |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
From:
Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 11:07 am
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John Groover McDuffie
From:
LA California, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 11:12 am
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| Dan Beller-McKenna wrote: |
| And fake tubes that glow in the back of the amp! |
and require periodic replacement or the amp stops working!
Now we're getting somewhere! |
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Rick Heins
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 11:18 am
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| Dan Beller-McKenna wrote: |
| And fake tubes that glow in the back of the amp! |
I think another company does that already........ |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
From:
Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 12:50 pm
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| Ah heck: throw in a 25lb block of iron while you're at it. Asymmetrically placed, of course. |
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Don Mogle
From:
Round Rock, TX, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 3:55 pm New Fender Twin
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Second attempt--see initial post on 10/28/19.
Rick,
Any chance this amp might make a showing at the Dallas show next March 2020? I'm sure there would be a lot of interest to the steel community at this event.
Thanks,
Don |
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John Groover McDuffie
From:
LA California, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 4:53 pm
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| Dan Beller-McKenna wrote: |
| Ah heck: throw in a 25lb block of iron while you're at it. Asymmetrically placed, of course. |
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Tom Wolverton
From:
Carpinteria, CA
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Posted 13 Dec 2019 10:15 pm Changing to a single 15†speaker
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I know this violates the amp’s warranty, but is it easy to change out the 2-12 baffle for a single 15 baffle? I hope the TM baffles are not dadoed into the cabinet like some SF Twin Reverbs are.
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John Russell
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 14 Dec 2019 8:08 am Single 15
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| It wouldn't be the first time someone traded out the two 12s for a single 15. Correct me if I'm wrong but a single 4 ohm speaker is the same impedance as two 8 ohm 12s. |
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Rick Heins
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 14 Dec 2019 4:24 pm Re: New Fender Twin
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Second attempt--see initial post on 10/28/19.
Rick,
Any chance this amp might make a showing at the Dallas show next March 2020? I'm sure there would be a lot of interest to the steel community at this event.
Thanks,
Don |
Don,
Not sure I can make it but I'd love to come to the event with some Tone Master Twins for players to try out. Guess we'll see in the new year. Anyways, these are everywhere now for folks to try out so you could try one out before then if you wanted to.  |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2019 10:38 am
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| Tom, the baffle is screwed in like black face and reissue twins. Easy to put a new baffle in. |
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George Kimery
From:
Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2019 12:28 pm New Tone Master Twin Reverb ....only 33 LB
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| This is great to know. I'm a JBL guy and replacing two neo's with two JBL's would. Increase the weight more. than I would be willing to do. But if I take the weight of one 15" JBL and deduct the weight of the two neo's the weight difference would be a few pounds at the most. |
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J Fletcher
From:
London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 17 Dec 2019 2:06 pm
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So how do the speakers plug into the amp ?
I notice there wasn't a speaker jack on the back panel. |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
From:
Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2019 2:23 pm
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"spade" quick-disconnects. If the speaker you're connecting to doesn't take those (like old JBLs and EVs, amnong others) you'd have to make a "jumper" with male (.187 width) tabs at one end, bare wire at other end.
https://www.mcmaster.com/spade-terminals |
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J Fletcher
From:
London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 17 Dec 2019 2:44 pm
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| So , no speaker jack of any type on the chassis ? Speaker wires come through a strain relief on the bottom of the amp ? |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
From:
Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2019 3:14 pm
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Cartwright Thompson
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Posted 22 Dec 2019 2:22 pm
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Sounds like a great sounding amp. What happens when you have a problem with it? Throw it in and out of your trunk a few hundred times and something is bound to go wrong, let’s face it, it always does. Then what?
Open up the chassis, what do you see? PC boards upon PC boards. If your warranty has expired, who’s gonna fix it...nobody. Disposable. I’m sick of our disposable culture.
Degenerative disc disease be damned, I’ll take a heavy, great sounding, easily serviceable tube amp, thank you very much. My hand wired tube amps will last forever, and sound better!
Put two handles on your D-10 case and your twin reverbs. One person lifting those things is brutal, with two it’s easy. Make some friends!
Now I will repair to my boudoir and don my flame proof suit...let er rip boys! |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 22 Dec 2019 3:22 pm
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As a former amp tech and life long electronics tech, I started in electronics in 1955 when it was all tubes. I have no problems with a PC board repair. Many can fix them and even "SMT" with the proper SMT workstations.
All the Peavey steel guitar amps are PCB. Reliability, because they are PCB, has not been an issue.
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