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Ron Whitworth


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Post  Posted 24 Aug 2019 12:21 pm    
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Hello Everyone;
I was wondering if anyone has made a tube preamp pedal
that can come close to the Alembic rackmount preamp.
They sound really good & close to the Fender amp sounds but
getting tired of hauling a rack around.

Have any of you ( that love the Fender tube amp sounds )
come across a tube preamp pedal that will get close to that sound?
Let me know what you suggest.
Thanks … Ron
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David Ball


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Linville, North Carolina
Post  Posted 24 Aug 2019 12:38 pm    
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There's a company called Frog Pedals that makes a DIY circuit board as well as an assembled pedal based on the Alembic F2B preamp. I've not played through one of the pre assembled pedals, but they look nice (and should--they're about $450). I've used a preamp built on one of his DIY boards, and it's very good. They run high voltage on the tube, and do the Fender thing very well.

Another option isn't a pedal, but it's a very small chassis. That is the Frenzel preamp--about $375 and has both a "Fender" and "Marshall" channel. Same basic circuit again as the Alembic. I've had a couple of these, and they're good handmade point to point wired amps. Comes as a rack mount (which is what you're trying to avoid) or a small standard chassis--12x8 footprint. Very old school.

Hope this helps.

Dave
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Douglas Schuch


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Valencia, Philippines
Post  Posted 24 Aug 2019 4:26 pm    
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I am not a tube guy, so I if I'm totally off-base, just say so and I will go away. But it seems that from what I have read, the key in a pre-amp/tube amp pedal/buffer is for the tube to be running at high voltage. I know both the Sarno Black Box and the Milkman "The Amp" do this. Now, I know this is only a small part of what makes up the Fender amp sound, but it's the important first step, I think. So seems that might be a logical place to start if you want tube tone in a smaller, lighter package.

I've never used a Black Box, but I own a Milkman "The Amp" and really like it. It can be a stand-alone amp or a pre-amp.

Next idea would be the Sarno V8 Octal pre-amp. It looks a bit more compact than a rack mount, and is patterned on amp circuits of the 60's. I have no experience with it, but is worth investigating. The discription says it is not meant for a distorted tube tone, but for clean tone. It's slightly larger than the Milkman, which is, of course a bit larger than a standard pedal, although neither seems cumbersome to carry around. Obviously, the more tubes, and the largerr they are, the bigger the box.

Maybe Tim or Brad will be inspired and come up with a pedal size device that fits somewhere between the Black Box and The Amp in size and function.
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Godfrey Arthur


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Post  Posted 24 Aug 2019 7:36 pm    
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Two Notes made this: "Le Clean" pedal:
https://youtu.be/osNLJmBKh0Y



You can get them at Sweetwater, B&H Photovideo and others.

About 3 Benjamins!
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Ron Whitworth


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Post  Posted 25 Aug 2019 12:14 pm    
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Hello All;
David - Thanks for the info on those 2 - I had heard of the amp maker but never heard of the pedal builder.
Thanks for your response.

Douglas - Yes you are correct about the high voltage is
what I have been told also. Brad gear is very nice & I am sure would do a great job but I wanted
to find something smaller if possible. Thanks for your response.

Godfrey - Yes, I had seen that pedal on the internet & will check into that. Thanks for your response.

I am still searching and looking - anyone else have any more comments ????
Thanks .. Ron
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We need to turn the TWANG up a little

It's not what you play through, it's what you play through it.

They say that tone is all in the fingers...I say it is all in your head Smile

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Jerry Erickson


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Atlanta,IL 61723
Post  Posted 25 Aug 2019 6:27 pm    
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Mesa Boogie used to make the V Twin pedal. I owned one at one time(2000-2002) and it worked pretty good for steel.
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Tim Marcus


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San Francisco, CA
Post  Posted 26 Aug 2019 10:15 am    
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I make one. Its called The Amp and its got a fender style tone stack, reverb, etc

https://milkmansound.com/collections/amplifiers/products/the-amp

you can find them everywhere Very Happy



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John Sluszny


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Brussels, Belgium
Post  Posted 26 Aug 2019 10:28 am    
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Tim,
Any sound clip with pedal steel guitar somewhere ? Thanks !
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Marty Holmes


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Magnolia ,TX USA
Post  Posted 26 Aug 2019 10:46 am    
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John look on Tim's website or YouTube there is a post of a pp Emmons.Marty
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John Sluszny


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Post  Posted 26 Aug 2019 4:35 pm    
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Right ! Thank you Marty πŸ‘πŸ˜‰
https://youtu.be/p-GeywpFCQg
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Steve Lipsey


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Post  Posted 26 Aug 2019 5:42 pm    
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And with The Amp as a preamp....you don't need an amp, because the backend puts out 50 watts...and it sounds delicious...I do go right from my The Amp to a P.A. now and then...(has XLR line level, pedal out, and headphone out, along with the speaker out...
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Ken Morgan


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Post  Posted 27 Aug 2019 7:55 am    
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Don’t rule out the now Jurassic BlueTube II made by BKButler...single rack space, superlative sounds, can be found on the cheap
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