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Roy Carroll


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Post  Posted 4 Oct 2019 5:20 am    
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Howdy Boys (and Girls)
Firstly, let me say your mileage may vary.
I came across a pedal made by Behringer, model TM-300 amp modeler. It is a stomp box and has 3 different amp models in it. Fender Tweed, Mesa Boogie, and Marshall stack.
Here is what I did... I put the TM-300 first in line after the Goodrich volume pedal, then to my Bo-Bro, then to my DD-3 Boss delay (used 1 repeat and sparingly) and lastly into my Wet Verb to my NV112 with a TT speaker. I adjusted the amp to straight up on bass, treble and presence (basically turning them off to use the tones in the pedal) I set the mid to -9 and the shift to 7-800 on the amp. I set the unit to microphone right(speaker edge), the amp type to Fender Tweed (clean) and the drive or distortion to 0, and the volume on the unit to full on, so I use the volume on the amp overall. The tone (I know is subjective) is adjustable at the fingertips, both bass and treble set to taste. It is very even across the strings and seems to kill any harshness in any string that might occur.
(by the way I play a Mullen G2 with a Telonics 206 pickup). I can get very close to the PP sound when needed. At least to my ears.
This unit is only $24.99 at Sweetwater. It was a treat to try it and I have now bought 2 one for my stage guitar and 1 for my practice guitar.
It at least give me some diversity on stage I can change my tone with the flick of a wrist if I want to.
Just thought I would share something different for ya'll to explore. Quickest way to a PP tone I have found without owning a PP guitar. Wonderful guitars, just are not for me.
Check it out it is cheap and fun.
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Tony Prior


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Post  Posted 5 Oct 2019 2:38 am    
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interesting, a $25 pedal can make us sound like we are playing a $4000 guitar Exclamation

Now that's progress ! Very Happy
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Mark S. Miller

 

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Post  Posted 6 Oct 2019 8:20 am    
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Roy Thank you for your time and input on letting us know what is out there and something new to try out if we chose to.

As for the Sarcastic comment above a $9.99 hammer could be used for an attitude adjustment.
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Brooks Montgomery


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Post  Posted 6 Oct 2019 10:01 am    
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Roy, interesting and an inexpensive experiment. With all the recent positive press and positive reviews from pro players towards the Fender Twin Tone Master, which is modeled just to emulate the old heavy tube amp, I wonder what the results of this would be in conjunction with a black box thru a SS type amp...

Just out of curiosity, how would you describe (in “tone” terms) what it does to your tone that makes it more like push-pull tone? (I’ve never owned a push-pull).
I’ll probably give it a try—might be fun with my other guitars.
Thanks
Brooks
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 6 Oct 2019 10:06 am    
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Got my attention too. It's been out for a few years and the reviews are mostly pretty good. At that price, it might be worth a try. Thanks for the heads up Roy.
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Chris Grigsby


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Post  Posted 6 Oct 2019 8:57 pm    
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What is a “Bo-Bro”?

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Ben Michaels


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Post  Posted 7 Oct 2019 1:59 am    
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There are quite a few sleeper behringer pedals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApJZa8yCMCQ

My personal opinion is that for the money they are hard to beat. Do they sound as good as boutique pedals....no. Do people really notice with your live tone? That is up for debate.
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Jimmie Hudson

 

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Post  Posted 7 Oct 2019 5:40 am     Winner Winner
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Tony Prior wrote:
interesting, a $25 pedal can make us sound like we are playing a $4000 guitar Exclamation

Now that's progress ! Very Happy

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner. LOL

I need a pedal that makes me sound like I am playing a steel guitar. Does anyone offer a pedal for someone like me that has no talent??? LOL
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 7 Oct 2019 6:28 am    
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Chris Grigsby wrote:
What is a “Bo-Bro”?

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Chris


It's a Boss 7 band EQ pedal that Bobbe Seymore set up to get a dobro type sound. He then broke off the sliders and covered the slots with a piece of plastic. He then sold it under the Bo-Bro name.
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Post  Posted 7 Oct 2019 6:54 am    
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https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=243307&sid=9eea0b9a6b9dbdce6254ca388abb4efa

I gather the BoBro was a GE7 with the sliders set alternately max and min
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Post  Posted 7 Oct 2019 6:59 am    
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https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=243307&sid=9eea0b9a6b9dbdce6254ca388abb4efa

I gather the BoBro was a GE7 with the sliders set alternately max and min
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Barry Blackwood


Post  Posted 7 Oct 2019 9:07 am    
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I need a pedal that makes me sound like I am playing a steel guitar. Does anyone offer a pedal for someone like me that has no talent??? LOL

Here ya go....

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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 7 Oct 2019 9:58 am    
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Jeremy Threlfall wrote:
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=243307&sid=9eea0b9a6b9dbdce6254ca388abb4efa

I gather the BoBro was a GE7 with the sliders set alternately max and min


Exactly. And they cost twice as much as just buying the Boss and moving the sliders yourself.
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Dale Foreman

 

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Post  Posted 7 Oct 2019 11:28 am     PP sound.
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Here’s the way I get that sound. I bought 2 Rittenberry Prestige guitars!😁
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Jimmie Hudson

 

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Post  Posted 7 Oct 2019 1:48 pm     lol
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Barry Blackwood wrote:
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I need a pedal that makes me sound like I am playing a steel guitar. Does anyone offer a pedal for someone like me that has no talent??? LOL

Here ya go....

lol
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Dale Foreman

 

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Post  Posted 7 Oct 2019 4:21 pm     PP sound.
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Here’s the way I get that sound. I bought 2 Rittenberry Prestige guitars!😁
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Brooks Montgomery


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Post  Posted 7 Oct 2019 5:59 pm     Re: PP sound.
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Dale Foreman wrote:
Here’s the way I get that sound. I bought 2 Rittenberry Prestige guitars!😁


With, apparently, one hell of a digital delay.
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Tony Prior


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Post  Posted 8 Oct 2019 12:09 am    
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Mark S. Miller wrote:
Roy Thank you for your time and input on letting us know what is out there and something new to try out if we chose to.

As for the Sarcastic comment above a $9.99 hammer could be used for an attitude adjustment.



Really ? Hit me in the head with a hammer ? Hurt me ?

Or maybe you were just being sarcastic ? Question

I gather that the TWO smileys went unnoticed.Sad


I don't believe it was sarcastic at all but more related to thought provocative. I'm sure the op has good intentions .
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Post  Posted 8 Oct 2019 2:55 am     lol
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Tony Prior wrote:
Mark S. Miller wrote:
Roy Thank you for your time and input on letting us know what is out there and something new to try out if we chose to.

As for the Sarcastic comment above a $9.99 hammer could be used for an attitude adjustment.



Really ? Hit me in the head with a hammer ? Hurt me ?

Or maybe you were just being sarcastic ? Question

I gather that the TWO smileys went unnoticed.Sad


I don't believe it was sarcastic at all but more related to thought provocative. I'm sure the op has good intentions .
Playing pedal steel with a hard hat on makes it sound more like a push pull also. LOL
Hang in there Tony. I think a $9.99 hammer is made of plastic these days, so you are safe.
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Roy Carroll


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Post  Posted 8 Oct 2019 4:28 am    
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Hi Gents,
All comments are welcome, Tony I just thought you were being funny. To explain, it is just a cheap experiment and will not suit everyone's ears. It takes some adjusting and tweaking like everything else that you put in the line. Interesting idea though. As always, everyone's ears are different and will be different most nights as discussed here on the forum all the time. Let me know what you guys hear.
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Tony Prior


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Post  Posted 8 Oct 2019 1:28 pm    
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Roy Carroll wrote:
Hi Gents,
All comments are welcome, Tony I just thought you were being funny.
Thanks


'Zactly Roy, that's why the Very Happy
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Mark S. Miller

 

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Post  Posted 9 Oct 2019 2:09 pm    
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Tony And Roy I hope you can accept my Apology for posting such a neg. comment Sorry
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Patrick Huey


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Post  Posted 12 Oct 2019 8:44 am    
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Mark S. Miller wrote:
Tony And Roy I hope you can accept my Apology for posting such a neg. comment Sorry

❤️❤️❤️ I wish more people these days were adult enough to post what you just did, Mark.
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Post  Posted 17 Oct 2019 3:52 pm     Tm-300
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Put and Emmons on my guitar, add 50 lbs, paint it black, and call me Buddy, IT WORKS!
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Roy Carroll


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Post  Posted 18 Oct 2019 4:58 am    
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Lyle, You are right! No one knows the difference anyway. If they can tell the difference in tone, they probably are a steel player and didn't pay to get in the joint anyway. Very Happy
P.S. you could remove the decal from the front of your G2 and screw on an Emmons nameplate. I suggest a 6" paint brush, it won't take as many strokes. Shocked
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