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Jan Münther

 

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Post  Posted 19 Jul 2016 3:23 am    
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After four seemingly endless months of waiting, tapping my fingers, and more waiting, my WBS Basic has arrived!
Sounds even better than it looks, mind you.
Now I only gotta learn how to play it properly... minor detail.

Super happy right now. Love the how the color and the binding came out.





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Cartwright Thompson


Post  Posted 19 Jul 2016 3:53 am    
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That's a great looking guitar. Could you post a few undercarriage shots?
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Jan Münther

 

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Post  Posted 19 Jul 2016 4:42 am    
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Only got this here from the 'unboxing' phase:



I'll do some more when I'm back home (currently at the office, sadly).
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Dave Meis


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Post  Posted 19 Jul 2016 7:31 am    
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Wow! Nice looking guitar..congratulations! Now get out of the office and GO TO WORK! Smile
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Jan Münther

 

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Post  Posted 19 Jul 2016 12:09 pm    
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Dave Meis wrote:
Wow! Nice looking guitar..congratulations! Now get out of the office and GO TO WORK! Smile


I'm on it!!!!
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John Sluszny

 

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Post  Posted 19 Jul 2016 2:25 pm    
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Congratulations,you can't go wrong with WBS pedal steel guitars,they're just fantastic.
But four months waiting for it is much too long !
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Ron Pruter

 

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Post  Posted 19 Jul 2016 5:18 pm    
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Looks like an Encore to me. Maybe with Fessenden pedals.
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Tucker Jackson

 

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Post  Posted 19 Jul 2016 10:42 pm    
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Maybe the other way around; the WBS predates the Encore. Very Happy

Nice guitar, Jan!
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 20 Jul 2016 5:41 am    
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Ron Pruter wrote:
Looks like an Encore to me. Maybe with Fessenden pedals.

You misspelled Stage One. The Basic is a pull-release guitar, and looks just like how I'd expect the Germans to make a pull-release axe.
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Ron Pruter

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2016 4:52 pm    
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You're right Lane. As soon as I wrote this I remembered the Encore is all pull.
Tucker, I wonder who came first? RP
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Tucker Jackson

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2016 7:37 pm    
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Right, Stage One is the direct comparison to the Basic. Which came first is good question. Wolfgang Bednarz built the first WBS in 1995 (a double neck). I think what was then called the economy model came shortly after. Maybe someone knows for sure?

I think Stage One came on the scene about the same time...
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Jack Hargraves

 

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Post  Posted 22 Jul 2016 9:28 am    
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Nice looking guitar. I love the color.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 22 Jul 2016 11:52 am    
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Before there was a Stage One, Bruce made a student model.
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Jan Münther

 

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Post  Posted 25 Jul 2016 1:31 am    
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Jack Hargraves wrote:
Nice looking guitar. I love the color.


I really do as well. Wolfgang sent me a couple of samples before I ordered, since the colors on a website are always a little off. When I saw it I knew I also wanted the vintage binding Smile

It sounds amazing, too. I'm only in my early pedal steel learning phases, but maybe I'll record a few notes soon just so you guys can hear this thing. I'm pretty thrilled.
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Jan Münther

 

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Post  Posted 25 Jul 2016 2:10 am    
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Cartwright Thompson wrote:
That's a great looking guitar. Could you post a few undercarriage shots?


Let me try this again, didn't want the uploads yesterday:




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John Sluszny

 

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Post  Posted 28 Jul 2016 9:55 am    
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Confused Which are the differences between all pull and pull release and push pull ? Thanks !
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 29 Jul 2016 10:31 am    
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All-pull allows you to combine a raise and a lower together. It uses a scissor-like arrangement, together with return springs and a stop bar to allow this to happen, and to allow both raises and lowers to pull the same way at the bellcranks.
Pull-release and push-pull use simpler fingers, that need more complexity in the pull train.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 29 Jul 2016 10:37 am    
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Push-pull changer https://www.steelguitar.com/maps/changerPP.html
All-pull changer https://www.steelguitar.com/maps/changer.html

The difference between pull-release and push-pull is that the pull-release lacks the lowering half of the finger. Putting the return springs on the rods that do the lowering.
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John Sluszny

 

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Post  Posted 29 Jul 2016 3:17 pm    
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Very complicated indeed ! But thank you Lane just the same !
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 29 Jul 2016 4:20 pm    
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From the standpoint of the player (as opposed to the tinkerer), pull-release and push-pull are identical.
Pull-release and push-pull must have slack in the raises of any string that both raises and lowers, and they don't allow for "splits", the ability to raise and lower at the same time.
All-pull doesn't need the slack, and can do splits.
The advantage of the push-pull is tone; the advantages of the pull-release are tone and economy: notice that all student models until the Carter Starter were pull-release.
Until you start tinkering with the changer and the underside, that's all you need to know.
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Paul Seager


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Post  Posted 21 Aug 2019 4:28 am    
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Hello, I realize this original post is a few years old but I am considering buying a WBS Basic and wanted to ask Jan Münther how he feels about the Basic three years on, any pro's / contra's of this instrument and with hindsight, if it would be his starting point again?
I'm progressing from a D8 non-pedal steel so the basics of steel playing are there. I also have a borrowed ABM D10 (I think its the 2000 model) which I'm grateful for the loan of but would not buy!

Also, if Jan responds, I wanted to clarify the colour chosen. Looks black, could be blue!

Thanks

\ paul
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