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Topic: What a great steel part! |
Bobby Nelson
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North Carolina, USA
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Bobby Nelson
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North Carolina, USA
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Posted 7 Jul 2019 6:06 am |
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The intro sounds like the moving part is done going from, the E to F levers on 345 (it can be done on 456, but sounds better on 345 to me). This is especially difficult for me because I have a lot of room between those two knees for easier access to the floor pedals. It sounds a little choppy like that, but I'm still working on it.
I read on another post a while back, where someone couldn't find much use for the C pedal. There is some great C pedal stuff in this one - at least that is how I'm doing some of it. |
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Dick Wood
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Posted 7 Jul 2019 7:38 am
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My wife always tells me I'm wrong but that sounds to me more like Buddy C. If I'm wrong,she's right. 
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Cops aren't paid much so I steel at night. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 7 Jul 2019 8:00 am
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Dick, if a man speaks in the forest with no woman to hear him, is he still wrong?  |
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Bobby Nelson
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Posted 7 Jul 2019 8:10 am
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That was my thought Dick. In the credits below, it says it was cut in 1960, and Buddy Emmons was the steel - Charleton started in 1961, but my thinking is that there might have been some overlap between Emmons and Charleton. It just has some very Charleton signature type of stuff in it, and some stuff that seems very uncharacteristic of Emmons.
Whoever it is, it has some concepts that open up things for me personally. If I cop a lick, I spend another 10 minutes going where it takes me - which is very cool to me! |
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Bobby Nelson
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Posted 7 Jul 2019 8:13 am
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| Barry, I posed your question to my wife, and she said "yes he is" - so there ya go. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 7 Jul 2019 8:31 am
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| It was a rhetorical question.... |
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Bobby Nelson
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 7 Jul 2019 9:07 am
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| I know - but it was funny anyway. |
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Dick Wood
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Springtown Texas, USA
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Posted 7 Jul 2019 1:45 pm
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It just doesn't quite have Emmon's signature style to my ear but if it says it's him my wife and somebody else is right it appears.
EDIT: I need to pay more attention as I just saw the credits and it is him.
I'll be in the backyard with the butt kickin machine.
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Greg Cutshaw
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Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 7 Jul 2019 4:52 pm
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The riff above by Emmons and the one linked below at 0:50 are my favorite ET steel breaks. Jimmy Day was in the studio watching Charleton perform this masterpiece and gave him the thumbs up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53mHUgJoeWc |
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Bobby Nelson
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North Carolina, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2019 1:06 am
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| Yeah Gregg, this is one of the ones that have made me a devoted Charleton fan, and student of his style - along with a number of performances of Thanks A Lot, and Be Better To Your Baby. |
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 8 Jul 2019 6:34 am
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I'll have to admit. I would have guessed Charlton. Buddy moved on from this type phrasing both in picking and volume pedal work. While Charleton made a career of it. At least thru the late 60's. I pretty much quit following the band after Leon Rhoads left. Not that it would prove or disprove anything. But has anyone found youtube links for other tunes on this particular LP ? I'm just curious to hear Emmons approach on the other tunes of similar tempo on this LP.
Thanks in advance. |
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Bobby Nelson
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North Carolina, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2019 1:48 pm
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| Good question Bobby - worth a look when I get time. |
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Jerry Jones
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Franklin, Tenn.
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Don R Brown
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Rochester, New York, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2019 4:32 pm
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Well, at least we agree it's Buddy, so you were not wrong after all! 
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 8 Jul 2019 9:46 pm
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Thank you so much Jerry Jones. I was so knocked out by what Buddy played on Half a Mind. 1959 I think?? These cuts sound a little sterile compared to it. The open string licks on Thoughts of a Fool were colorful for that time period.(Buddy's take on Mooney.) But other than that. I have to wonder if ET or whoever produced it maybe bridled Buddy down just a tad. Anyway, still glad I got to hear it.
b. |
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Donny Hinson
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Posted 9 Jul 2019 4:02 pm
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| Bobby Nelson wrote: |
The intro sounds like the moving part is done going from, the E to F levers on 345
I read on another post a while back, where someone couldn't find much use for the C pedal. There is some great C pedal stuff in this one - at least that is how I'm doing some of it. |
That Tubb song was cut in 1960 featuring Emmons, and there wasn't any E-F change back then. It's all just the A&B pedals!  |
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Craig A Davidson
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Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 9 Jul 2019 4:53 pm
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| The book has Emmons on steel. It was recorded 12-04-60. |
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Dick Wood
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Springtown Texas, USA
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Posted 10 Jul 2019 5:47 am
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Thanks Don for clearing up that I was only half wrong...lol
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Bobby Nelson
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2019 10:53 pm
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| I'm finding, since Buddy Emmons (unless I'm mis-informed) put the chromatic strings in the 1 & 2 positions, that studying his use of them opens a whole realm of uses - especially in conjunction with the knee levers, and B & C pedals. I already knew that John Hughey made a lot of use of them for some really interesting chords, but studying the source is giving me a lot more understanding of why they are there. I suppose this is common knowledge to you old hands, but it's the kind of thing that makes me keep wanting more of this wonderful music machine. |
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