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Joseph Myers


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Post  Posted 18 Jun 2019 12:38 pm    
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I never knew Gilmour played a Zane Beck but there's a blue 1977 at his Christies Auction along with the rest of his prime guitars. Looks like one of the all molded ones? C pedal rod looks like it's falling off.

Just curious what this will go for.??

https://www.christies.com/features/Virtual-Tour-The-David-Gilmour-Collection-June-9958-1.aspx?sc_lang=en


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Bill Sinclair


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Post  Posted 18 Jun 2019 1:22 pm    
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The blonde Jedson lap steel (lot # 8 ) appears to be the one he toured with for years before replacing it with a Fender DeLuxe 6. Of the half dozen (pretty cool) steels listed, that one would seem to have the most player's provenance.
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Douglas Schuch


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Post  Posted 18 Jun 2019 3:31 pm    
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That ZB looks like the student model. Without his name attached, worth maybe 600 I'd guess?
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Dennis Montgomery


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Post  Posted 18 Jun 2019 5:16 pm    
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Here's the page that specifically links to the ZB:

https://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=6198072

It appears to be a 3 x 1 and they estimate it going between $1000 to $2000. Ouch. I found a 2006 interview with Gilmour here where he talks about playing pedal steel on Dark Side of the Moon but that performing live, "The pedal steel was a bit cumbersome. It had more strings than I could actually deal with - 8 strings on each neck - so what I ended up making was a 6 string slide."

http://www.davidgilmour.com/press/2006/may/Guitarist4_May06.pdf

Interesting that he's selling the ZB, but I couldn't find any evidence that he ever used it on album or stage (though I admit I'm not a Dave Gilmour expert) compared to the Fender 1000 it appears he played on "The Great Gig in the Sky" from "Dark Side of the Moon" Winking
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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2019 12:33 am    
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Jeff Mead


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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2019 12:41 am    
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Dennis Montgomery wrote:
"The pedal steel was a bit cumbersome. It had more strings than I could actually deal with - 8 strings on each neck - so what I ended up making was a 6 string slide."


Yes, he seems to be talking about his Fender 1000 here but all the pictures I've seen of it show it with the pedals removed and only strung with 6 strings per neck (which I suppose is what he means by "making a 6 string slide").

Not seen (or heard evidence of) him playing with pedals.
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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2019 4:54 am    
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Just because an instrument was once owned by a famous musician doesn't make it any better. I once played a guitar that had been previously been owned by Eric Clapton. It didn't make me play any better, or sound like him.
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Dennis Montgomery


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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2019 7:45 am    
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Jeff Mead wrote:

Not seen (or heard evidence of) him playing with pedals.


Same here. I've never heard any Pink Floyd or anything off the 1st 2 Gilmour solo albums that sounds like pedal steel...lot's of steel, but no pedal steel Winking
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Dennis Montgomery


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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2019 8:00 am    
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Mike Perlowin wrote:
Just because an instrument was once owned by a famous musician doesn't make it any better. I once played a guitar that had been previously been owned by Eric Clapton. It didn't make me play any better, or sound like him.


Agreed.

There's been a lot of discussion about the auction on the rock/metal forum over at Ultimate Guitar. Most of us agree that Gilmour's pieces will mostly be bought by wealthy fans/collectors and locked away in glass cases rather than actually played. This is not going to be an auction for starving musicians to pick up one of Gilmour's Strats Sad
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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2019 8:15 am    
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i'm almost certain he never played pedal steel on any recordings. When I first heard Dark Side of the Moon I thought his work on Breathe and Great Gig were pedal. Turns out it was just alternate tunings with volume swells. I just found the ZB an odd item that he would of even have really.

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Donny Hinson


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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2019 8:26 am    
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Remember that the big auction houses often charge up to a 25% "buyer's premium" on the hammer price. So if the hammer price is 2 grand, the buyer would actually have to pay $2500 for the item. The sellers also pay a commission to the auction house for the sale that covers advertising, insurance, and auctioneer's fees. As a result, the auction houses do pretty well on most sales! Mr. Green
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Dennis Montgomery


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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2019 8:37 am    
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Joseph Myers wrote:
i'm almost certain he never played pedal steel on any recordings. When I first heard Dark Side of the Moon I though his work on Breathe and Great Gig were pedal. Turns out it was just alternate tunings with volume swells. I just found the ZB and odd item that he would of even had really.


Ya, after saying an 8 string neck had too many strings to deal with, it is strange that he'd go out and get a 10 string ZB. I notice the description says the ZB is circa '77 so maybe he intended to learn some moves and use it on Animals, or The Wall but never got the hang of pedal steel - wouldn't be the first time a great guitarist bailed on pedal steel right Laughing

I also notice his interview mentioned BJ Cole coming over to his house, I wonder if he took any pedal steel lessons from BJ?

Too bad that 'Dark Side of the Moon' Fender 1000 wasn't on the block. That would have serious collector value Winking
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Joseph Myers


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Post  Posted 20 Jun 2019 1:57 pm    
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Heavens!!

$93.000 for the 77 Zane Beck

$300,000 for the lowly Jedson lap.

The Black Strat $3,975,000 (highest guitar ever sold at auction)

I think he raised over $22,000,000

So that's that


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Dennis Montgomery


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Post  Posted 20 Jun 2019 3:02 pm    
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Joseph Myers wrote:

$93.000 for the 77 Zane Beck


Looks like I barely lost Winking
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Brian Hollands


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Post  Posted 20 Jun 2019 3:09 pm    
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Hmmm, did I mention my old Sho-Bud was once owned by David Gilmour?
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Alan Bidmade


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Post  Posted 22 Jun 2019 6:58 am    
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I've got one of Joe Ely's plectrums... but it didn't make me a great songwriter. Sad
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Post  Posted 22 Jun 2019 7:46 am    
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Brian Hollands wrote:
Hmmm, did I mention my old Sho-Bud was once owned by David Gilmour?


I saw David Gilmore on TV while sitting at my Carter. Oh wait... That was the Gilmore Girls. Dang it.
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T. C. Furlong


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Post  Posted 22 Jun 2019 7:49 am    
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I wonder how much of the super high bidding was due to the fact that the instruments were owned by David Gilmour. Are there that many wealthy Pink Floyd/Gilmour fans? Or is it the fact that the money is going to Client Earth...a charity to help save the planet for our children and grandchildren? Either way, I'm happy that the auction was so successful. I bid on Nash Tele. As a non-celebrity owned instrument, it was worth about $1500. It realized $60,000. Doh! BTW, I wasn't the successful bidder Smile
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Paul McEvoy


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Post  Posted 22 Jun 2019 8:56 am    
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Is this probably the highest price ever paid for a steel guitar? The irony of it being a cheap ass guitar being pretty obvious:

https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/Musical-Instruments/jedson-japan-1974-an-electric-console-steel-6198070-details.aspx?lid=1&from=relatedlot&intobjectid=6198070

I've never listened much to Pink Floyd although I know they are great. But I think they definitely appeal to rich lawyer types and CEOs of tech startups etc.
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Post  Posted 22 Jun 2019 9:35 am    
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T. C. Furlong wrote:
I wonder how much of the super high bidding was due to the fact that the instruments were owned by David Gilmour.


All of it, I'd say.
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