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Bill C. Buntin


Post  Posted 27 May 2019 8:16 am    
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Ive been using 12s for over 20 years. I learned this from the late Gene Fields. Minimized my breakage frequency. So much so, its no longer an issue really. Or at least for me.

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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Post  Posted 27 May 2019 12:19 pm    
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FWIW, I use SIT 011s on my Encore and haven't broken one. Having said that, this is the first set of SITs on there (after the original strings that came with the steel). Planning to change them this week. But I haven't broken an SIT 011 under normal use for years (use them on all my steels).

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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Post  Posted 29 May 2019 1:19 am    
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Hahaha!! And then I promptly broke one putting a new set of SITs on my Super Pro yesterday. Doh! Maybe there is a bad batch going around.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 29 May 2019 5:14 am    
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I tried a .012 on my Carter once, and it lasted a month or so. I was gigging heavily at the time. I replaced it with another .012 when I changed strings. It broke when I got it up to pitch. I didn't have a spare, so I went back to either an .011 or .0115.

I do have a set that I am going to put on my Mullen that has a .012. Crossing my fingers.

Like Roger, I like the tone of the .012. I use heavier gauges like .018 for string 5 and .022 for string 6. It seems to balance the individual volumes of those strings.
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Brad Malone


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Post  Posted 29 May 2019 7:02 pm     Live Steel strings
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Larry Baker, I agree with you "Live Steel Strings" are the best I ever found for the E9th tuning..they just never break on my Mullen. I get them from Hopewell, VA. 23860
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Mike Mantey


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Eastern Colorado, USA
Post  Posted 30 May 2019 7:04 am    
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Make sure you are winding it correctly. I made a short video on how we do it to keep them from breaking at the tuning key. https://youtu.be/zkdbQOwvi8w
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Bobby D. Jones


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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 30 May 2019 7:41 pm     I Keep breaking 11's
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If they break at the key head be very careful. I suggest you wear safety glasses till you find the problem.
Make sure there is no burrs around the cross hole in the tuner shaft. Be sure to wrap the 3rd string enough wraps till the string is wound on smooth round shaft, Past the cross hole.

If the string is breaking at the changer end, Check the fingers for burrs. Check the end of the broken string with a magnifying glass. I had an order of .011 strings. George L's that would break into 3 pieces, The long string, the short end with the ball and a small wedge shaped piece right where the string left the finger. The next order of strings, Some are still in my seat.
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Larry Ball


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Alberta, Canada
Post  Posted 31 May 2019 1:47 pm    
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I use what I call the "Mullen Rap" on the 3rd and have never looked back. Mike was right and I suggest you look at his video. I also use a .012
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Mark McCornack


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California, USA
Post  Posted 7 Jul 2019 3:00 pm    
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If you are breaking right at the tuner, check the tuner through-hole for burrs or a sharp edge where the string would be exiting. Multiple wraps is also a VERY good idea on the plains, especially the thinner ones. If you don’t have a string winder, invest the $5 or whatever it is to get one. De-burring and multiple wraps should fix your problem. If you do both these things and it still breaks there, re-post here. I’d be surprised if your problem isn’t resolved though.

It’s pretty much just music wire and high cost “magic” NYXL wire isn’t going to fix your problem. De-burring will keep an acute angle from localized stress point in the string and multiple wraps will tend to distribute the stress over the windings around the peg, bound by friction. These two things will help.
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Bengt Erlandsen


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Brekstad, NORWAY
Post  Posted 7 Jul 2019 11:24 pm    
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Two wraps of thin teflon-tape around the string where it bends at the tuning post hole will prevent any breakage at that spot. It doesnt take that long to prepare the string before tuning and the extra work is far less than the work required to replace the string if it breaks.

(Teflon tape is also an easy solution to prevent string breakage and tuning troubles on a Fender Stratocaster after heavy vibrato use. String usually breaks at the spot where it comes up and a little before passing over the intonation bridges. Just check an old string for kinks at the ball end side and you will know exactly where on the string to wrap the teflon tape)


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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC..
Post  Posted 8 Jul 2019 12:40 am    
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if they keep breaking, over and over again, ts not the string or the brand of string.
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George Kimery


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Limestone, TN, USA
Post  Posted 8 Jul 2019 3:50 am     I keep breaking 11's
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My experience has been that the brand of string does matter. I broke thirds for 40 years until I got Jaqwires. Then a few years ago, it became difficult to get them, so I switched to Live Steel. Haven't broken one of them yet. Jeff Newman used .012 and I believe so does Paul Franklin. I used .o115 for about a year, then this year I have gone to .012 with no problem and like the sound of them better. To my ears they sound a little fuller and not as thin as an .011. I think it blends in better when I play strings 3 and 5.

I can buy Buddy Emmons SIT strings locally for $6.75 a set. Live Steel strings are $10.50 plus shipping, so I have almost $15.00 in a set. Are they worth the difference, to me, absolutely. It's cheap insurance for not having to worry about breaking a string on the bandstand. Plus,I like the way they sound.
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