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Paul McEvoy


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Post  Posted 12 May 2019 10:40 am    
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I need to buy some cables, mostly to have extra to leave in the car, etc.

Seems like none of the easily available ones (Daddario etc) seem to have many fans?

Is any of the regular brands better than the others? Mogami kinda stuff is too pricey at the moment.
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Bob Hoffnar


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Post  Posted 12 May 2019 1:06 pm    
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Any regular cable will be fine. There is no such thing as a pedalsteel cable.
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Eric Philippsen


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Post  Posted 12 May 2019 4:20 pm    
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Been playing for 45 years. Seen and used all the cables in every type of environment and situation. Got tired of the bad stuff, was pissed when a "new & improved" cable failed on always, of course, a gig. Finally found a cable that worked, sounded great, and delivered. For the last 20 years I've used nothing but George L cables and connectors.

Every vehicle I own carries an extra bar, picks, and a 3 & 10-foot set of those cables. 'Cause, really, you never know when you'll run across some "whoa" Emmons, or killer Sho-Bud, or Zum in some little music shop, or some gigging situation where you need those items RIGHT NOW. It's happened several times to me! My gigging pak-a-seat is stuffed with various lengths of them to cover any setup.

Just do it, get some, and know you're covered.
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Donny Hinson


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Post  Posted 15 May 2019 4:57 am    
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Like Bob, I can use just about anything and get "my" sound. IMHO, it's more about knowing how to use stuff than it is about the stuff itself. I don't use expensive "low-cap" cables because if there's one thing my pedal steel seldom needs, it's extra highs. Oh Well

Steelers these days seldom sound as good as steelers did decades ago. That proves to me that you don't need special "stuff" to sound good.
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Jack Hanson


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Post  Posted 15 May 2019 6:20 am    
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Donny Hinson wrote:
Steelers these days seldom sound as good as steelers did decades ago. That proves to me that you don't need special "stuff" to sound good.

Exactly!

Switching strings, pickups, cables, etc. are no substitute for seat time.
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John Goux


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Post  Posted 23 May 2019 7:39 pm    
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You guys crack me up.
Every one of you knows the most important element to playing steel guitar is your choice of guitar cable. You’re still trying to hide it.
PS. To the OP, D’Addarrio cables are a popular choice, reasonably priced, pleasantly bright and very dependable.
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b0b


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Post  Posted 23 May 2019 8:44 pm    
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Make your own! www.steelguitarshopper.com/daddario-diy-cable/ Cool
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Paul McEvoy


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Post  Posted 24 May 2019 7:41 am    
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I should have been more specific: I was mostly talking about cable durability. I think my failure rate is probably around 75% and I don't play out that much.

I haven't been totally impressed with D'addarios in this regard.
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Bob Hoffnar


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Post  Posted 24 May 2019 8:05 am    
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If you can operate a soldering iron it's pretty easy to make your own cables with Neutrik plugs and canare cable.
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Donny Hinson


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Post  Posted 24 May 2019 3:04 pm    
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There are a few reasons that cables fail. One is people who pull the cables out of guitars and amps by pulling on the wire (instead of holding on to the plug itself). Another is players (and others) who trip over the cables. The last reason is probably people who use cables that are too short, thus constantly pulling them at right angles where the wire goes into the plug. I rarely broke cables, even when I was gigging 5 nights a week, but that might have just been luck. Who knows?

However, I don't really care for big cables that are "break-proof"...those super-heavy ones with the ginormous/strong plugs. I always carry a few extra cables, and I want the cables to be the "weakest link". That way, when some doofus gets his feet tangled romping across the stage, the cable will give way first - and they won't be breaking jacks, or pulling my amp off the stand, or sending my steel tumbling over.
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Tony Prior


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Post  Posted 25 May 2019 1:48 am    
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Bob Hoffnar wrote:
If you can operate a soldering iron it's pretty easy to make your own cables with Neutrik plugs and canare cable.



"IF" The magic word.

Plain Jane is exactly what is defined . CHEAP, poor quality.

$4000 instrument, $1000 amp, $10 cable.

After years of putzing with various cables , even making/repairing my own, ( and yeah I know how to use an Iron) I splurged and bought a few Mogami Silver, 12 footers when they were on sale.

that was maybe 5 or 6 years ago. I have never had to chase a cable ever since. Hundreds of gigs, Hundreds. The same two cables.

I do also have some George L cables that I have been using for Steel for 10 or more years, they are also excellent.

Spend the money on the good stuff, use your time to practice !
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Steven Paris


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Post  Posted 25 May 2019 2:35 pm    
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Bob Hoffnar wrote:
If you can operate a soldering iron it's pretty easy to make your own cables with Neutrik plugs and canare cable.

Right on!! AND you have a cable that's reliable, sounds good, and is CHEAP!! You can make a 10-foot cable with Canare LV-61 (https://www.markertek.com/product/lv-61s-we/canare-lv-61s-rg59-75-ohm-video-coaxial-cable-by-the-foot-white) and Rean/Neutrik plugs (https://www.markertek.com/product/nys201/rean-nys201-1-4-inch-2-pole-mono-plug-short-handle-nickel-silver) for less than $7.00!! It will equal or better ANY cable on the market at ANY price.
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Bill Ferguson


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Post  Posted 25 May 2019 3:01 pm    
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I've tried them all and hands down, I get my best tone with George L's.
That is why I became a George L's dealer over 30 years ago and nothing could make me switch.

I have made this offer many times. If you buy a set and are not satisfied that you get a better tone, I will refund your money and you keep the cables. That's how sure I am.
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Aaron Johnson


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Post  Posted 25 May 2019 3:08 pm    
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If you can solder, I'm a fan of Mogami 2524 with Amphenol jacks. I buy in bulk from Redco which has some of the lowest prices out there. They have about any other brand of cable and connector that is used in the mainstream if you have a different preference.
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Lee Baucum


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Post  Posted 25 May 2019 6:40 pm    
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Plain-Jane cables? Live Wires work just fine. Guaranteed for life. I ran across a couple of old ones that had "issues". I have no idea where they were purchased; but, I took them to a Guitar Center. They gave me two brand new cables ... no questions asked.

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Tony Prior


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Post  Posted 26 May 2019 1:39 am    
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this thread is starting to resemble " which strings are best ". Very Happy

A player uses brand X for a decade with no issues and we tell him his cables are no good ! Tuff sell ! Laughing

Not everyone can solder, not everyone SHOULD solder. Some people shouldn't even try to solder !

thats it for me ! Smile
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Peter Harris


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Post  Posted 26 May 2019 5:13 am    
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Tony Prior wrote:


Not everyone can solder, not everyone SHOULD solder. Some people shouldn't even try to solder !




Couldn't have ever said that any better !!!!! Rolling Eyes
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Jim Sliff


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Post  Posted 26 May 2019 5:18 pm    
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What Tony said.

I had several molded-end D'Addario cables fail; I ordered them through their Player's Points program but they replaced all under warranty.

However, those are the only molded-end cables I have on hand. I use either George L or Disaster area solderless, assemble-yourself cables. I have never had issues with either - READ the DIRECTIONS, assemble them, use them.

End of story.
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Steven Paris


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Post  Posted 26 May 2019 7:04 pm    
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Tony Prior wrote:
Not everyone can solder, not everyone SHOULD solder. Some people shouldn't even try to solder !

Ah, c'mon---it ain't rocket science!! It's WAY easier than playin' the damn pedal steel guitar!!
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