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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 18 Apr 2019 10:19 am    
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I'm mesmerised by her voice and songs. I wonder where she recorded and who the musicians were. There's always great guitar playing on her songs.
Except on this one, but it doesn't matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETtKTtOfXPI
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Mitch Drumm


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Post  Posted 18 Apr 2019 12:42 pm    
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She moved from Chicago to LA at age 12 in 1952 and as far as I know most if not all of her recordings were done in LA with the studio musicians of the day.

She was a powerhouse. I'm grateful I got to see her in the early 80s I think, in San Francisco. That might even have been after she had contracted the throat cancer that she fought for 20 years or so.

"What's A Matter Baby" is in my all-time top 10 recordings. A Phil Spector production as I recall...he likely brought in the cream of the crop musicians.

It's said she befriended Willie Nelson in LA around 1960 when he was trying to get his songs placed and was on the same label as Timi. Her folks had a restaurant and fed Willie from time to time. Willie was on Don Imus' radio show not long before Timi passed and Imus asked him about her. I think all Willie said was that she was in Las Vegas and not doing well.

You can probably dig out a home recording she made from about 1954 of "I Love You With All My Heart".

It's a shame she never became more widely known and is almost totally forgotten today.








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Donny Hinson


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Post  Posted 18 Apr 2019 1:23 pm    
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She was a wonder, a powerful contralto singer with fabulous emotion and expression. A little lady that could be reserved and soulful on one line, and then "belt it out" with the best of them on the next, with a staccato delivery reminiscent of some of the best black female singers, like Tina Turner or Gladys Knight. That type of voice is seldom heard today.

Here's one of my favorites:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY_7xcTkCW4

and another...which also happens to be Charlie Chaplin's most memorable musical composition:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k46N6PKjbY0
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Mitch Drumm


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Post  Posted 18 Apr 2019 1:55 pm    
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I'd really like to know who the specific musicians were on her songs, but I haven't really tried to dig out that info. It may be all but impossible to find. Many of her songs were big productions with a lot of players.

If I had to guess on guitar---maybe guys like Tommy Tedesco, Howard Roberts, or Glen Campbell.

She did a recording of "Crazy" at Nelson's studio, with Grady Martin on guitar. There's an LP or CD available of those recordings. Some are duets with Willie.

There's a pretty cool 1960s Scopitone out there of her singing "If", complete with an actual whirling dervish and numerous costume changes in 3 minutes. Looks to me like she is lip-synching to the audio track of her recording.

Dervish, immediately after whirling:


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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 18 Apr 2019 11:05 pm    
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Thanks for your replies Mitch and Donny. Seems there a lot about her to explore. I found this Blues without the usual strings.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExjQUfIbC8M
(the guitar player sounds familiar)
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Godfrey Arthur


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2019 2:49 am    
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I remember Timi for her song Hurt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPy-Memj0vE



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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2019 7:46 am    
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Here's the credits for her only in Holland released record "All Alone Am I" from '81. I bought this a few years ago only listening once. I pulled it out yesterday and I was surprprised how good it is.


Some names sound vaguely familiar.



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Mitch Drumm


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2019 8:48 am    
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The book "Ladies Of Soul" by David Freeland has a full chapter on Timi. You can read some of it here:

https://tinyurl.com/y3c8m7tw

She mentions in the above link that she was in love with the guitar player in her band circa 1960--until she found him in bed with a girl she knew. I wonder if she is referring to a studio guitar player or if she actually had her own band that early on.

She was enthralled by pop music of the late 40s although her parents tried to direct her more towards operatic stuff. She was belting out her favorite singer Dinah Washington's "Long John Blues" at the age of 7, when she couldn't possibly have understood the double entendre of the lyrics. Her father was not amused.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3kwdM_puAs


She was apparently on Ed Sullivan's show in the early 60s, but I can't recall seeing it.

I just learned today that she was married to Lou Christie for a time in the mid 1960s.

She remained popular well into the 1980s in Europe, particularly in Holland and Italy.

There are hundreds of pictures here:

https://tinyurl.com/y2wufpnz

First communion, Chicago:




Unknown location, 1964:




Lesley Gore has a jaw that rivals John Elway's.

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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2019 9:59 am    
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To my ears this sounds like being recorded at American Studios or rather Muscle Shoals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toBsY1cqHhU
Could it be Eddie Hinton on guitar?
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Mitch Drumm


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2019 10:28 am    
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That was done in Memphis circa 1974; produced by Willie Mitchell. Quite possibly American Sound. Maybe Reggie Young? Bobby Womack?


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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2019 10:38 am    
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Thank you!
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Mitch Drumm


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2019 11:25 am    
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Did some more searching and learned that the guitar player in her early band that broke her heart was Larry Bright---the same Larry Bright that had a hit with "Mojo Workout" and "Got My Mojo Working" in the 1960s. I didn't know that he was a guitar player as well as a vocalist.

In early 1960 at age 19, Timi was working in Reno lounges as a duet "Timi and Troy". That's Troy Walker, who claims he convinced Timi to start using that name instead of her given name Rosemary. This was probably the era when she had a touring band with Bright on guitar, before having a hit record.

Timi claims that she had sung "Hurt" since childhood, but demanded to record it only because Bright had been unfaithful and she was so indignant that she wanted him to hear it on the radio.

She was known to be highly assertive in the studio, not suffering fool producers well, so she got her way and it became a big hit.

Here's Bright singing about his faithfulness on "My Hands Are Tied"---he's a good vocalist and you could see why Timi might be attracted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFaJ_cMw0lc

Larry Bright not only heard "Hurt" on the radio, he repeatedly came to the Yuro family's restaurant on West Pico in LA to hear her sing the song after it became a hit.

Can't possibly be him on her recording.

http://topshelfoldies.org/larry_bright.htm

".........Bright came to Southern California in 1955.......On weekend evenings he would drive in to cruise Sunset Strip and he began to hang out at a small club called the Sea Witch at 8516 Sunset Bl. It was about 1958 that he began sitting in with the band and soon met others who were breaking into the recording industry. Bright claimed that he taught the standard “Hold Me” to P.J. Proby (It became Proby’s first chart single in 1964); that he was instrumental in getting Timi Yuro to change her style from Italian ballads to the soulful mode that made her a hit; and that he helped her get signed to Liberty Records..........Ex-wife K. Terry Bright had many home tapes of Larry, including duets with Timi Yuro and Roy Clark (Bright surprised Clark by putting a Bo Diddley beat to “Malaguena”)..........A former girlfriend said, “He took whatever he could from every girl, but he did it in a nice way. He was trying to survive."


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Mitch Drumm


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2019 2:31 pm    
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Bobby Scott is said to be the keyboard player on the LP she did for Mercury. A Quincy Jones production, I think.

https://www.discogs.com/Timi-Yuro-The-Amazing-Timi-Yuro/master/224048


She is well-remembered in the UK. One of her late 60s singles sells for well north of $1000.

https://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?pagenum=1&searchtext=%22timi+yuro%22&incldescr=&sortord=dprice&thumbs=&currsel=&endfrom=&endthru=&ipp=&sdc=

Hear it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L1j0_UubKE
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 20 Apr 2019 3:03 am    
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This phenonemon in Britain is called Northern Soul, there's quite a large community listeng to Motown and some very rare soul music.
Here is Timi with a country song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xyPRT6DDO4
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