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Russell Adkins
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Posted 18 Mar 2019 5:40 pm |
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| I need expert advice here . Im building a 12 string console ,I like the c6 sound What would you advise as to a sutable tuning to maximize possible chords and minimize slants. Russ |
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Russell Adkins
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 19 Mar 2019 5:01 pm
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| any takers here? Somebodys gotta have some sort of opinion ???? |
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Jouni Karvonen
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 20 Mar 2019 2:34 am
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Bill McCloskey
From:
Nanuet, NY
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Posted 20 Mar 2019 4:01 am
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The extended Eharp 12 string tuning will give you more chords and no slants. Bottom to top : A c# e f f# g g# a b c# e f#
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Jim Davies
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Charlottesville VA
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Posted 21 Mar 2019 9:35 am
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I use an E13 on my 12 string (low to hi)
F# D E G# B C# E G# B C# E D On the bottom end the F# and D are thin strings pitched above and below the middle E. The D on the hi end is pitched just below the 1st E, From E to E Is E6 All your C6 stuff is right there without having to worry about string skips.
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Jim Davies
From:
Charlottesville VA
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Posted 21 Mar 2019 9:42 am
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Oh yea and on the bottom end I run the thin strings threw some old brass ball ends set on the bridge and nut to shim the string up
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Matthew Walton
From:
Fort Worth, Texas
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Posted 21 Mar 2019 10:00 am
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+1 for Reece's C6 tuning. To be fair I haven't tried any others, but it's a great tuning. The only time I really need to slant is for diminished and augmented chords.
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Pookie Anselmi
From:
Galliano, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 21 Mar 2019 11:33 am
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I would love to see some pics as you go along.
Thanks |
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Russell Adkins
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 21 Mar 2019 5:08 pm
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| Bill McCloskey wrote: |
| The extended Eharp 12 string tuning will give you more chords and no slants. Bottom to top : A c# e f f# g g# a b c# e f# |
Bill I have read some of your post on that tuning and it sounds like it might be very interesting . |
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Russell Adkins
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 21 Mar 2019 5:09 pm
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| Pookie Anselmi wrote: |
I would love to see some pics as you go along.
Thanks |
You are interested in seeing the build ? |
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Russell Adkins
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 21 Mar 2019 5:11 pm
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| Pookie Anselmi wrote: |
I would love to see some pics as you go along.
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You are interested in seeing the build ? |
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Jouni Karvonen
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 21 Mar 2019 11:54 pm
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Yep, this is mine, home made from years ago.
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Pookie Anselmi
From:
Galliano, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2019 3:11 am
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| Yes Russell I am interested. Where do you live in Louisiana? |
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Bill McCloskey
From:
Nanuet, NY
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Posted 22 Mar 2019 5:52 am
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Russell,
I hope you give it a try. I've become completely addicted to it and find it to be the most versatile tuning I've ever used.
The upside or downside depending how you look at it is that it doesn't sound like a 6th tuning, or any other tuning for that matter. Much more like a piano, in that the tuning doesn't have a unique sound that gives it away. That is one of the positives for me.
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Russell Adkins
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2019 2:22 pm
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Russell Adkins
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2019 2:26 pm
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Bill what string gauges would be used with that tuning? writing it out on paper I counted 30 plus chords just from a quick glance at it , that's THREE NOTE CHORDS all major , im guessing maybe chord scales can be gotton also , might be promising .
Last edited by Russell Adkins on 22 Mar 2019 3:15 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Bill McCloskey
From:
Nanuet, NY
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Posted 22 Mar 2019 2:30 pm
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Russell, the standard 10 string eharp tuning is 36, 32, 30, 28, 26, 24, 22, 20, 18, 16
For the 12 string version I put a low A and a high F# with the main tuning in the middle. So whatever F# (above 16) and A (below 36) you want to use.
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Russell Adkins
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2019 3:24 pm
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| Bill it looks like there are a few wide grip chords also , those might be tough to get properly, however it is interesting |
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Bill McCloskey
From:
Nanuet, NY
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Posted 22 Mar 2019 3:46 pm
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That is right Russell, just posted about giving up finger picks to make the wide grips easier. Like anything practice. You try a grip one day and say "I'll never be able to grab that quickly" and the next day you can.
But to literally be able to play 4, 5, 6 note chords for almost any melody note and chord makes learning the grips well worth the time.
I'm still in the weeds or I'd post something. Mostly now it would be chords scales and noodling. But when I put on a jazz tune in BIAB, the things I can get and ease of improvisation.... all I can say is, I tried very hard to go back to a C6 tuning an A6 tuning a G tuning, any other tuning. they just don't have what this tuning has.
I hope others give it a try.
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Bill McCloskey
From:
Nanuet, NY
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Posted 22 Mar 2019 3:57 pm
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Just to give you an idea of the chords:
you have 3 major chord grips, 3 different maj6 chords, 3 major 7, 2 maj9, 3 minor, minor 6th, minor 7th, 7ths, Dim, Aug, and about 2 dozen extended chords. they run from 3 note chords to 7 note chords.
Key is 4 fingers. You have to get used to using the ring finger.
I've been doing something lately where I just keep all four fingers on the strings and play a melody and harmony line, with a lot of harmony choices without ever moving the bar.
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Russell Adkins
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2019 5:10 pm
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| I am starting on This build like I mentioned in my first post and I will give this a shot its a long way from c6 but could prove to be interesting , besides breaking away from my pedal steel builds and pushing pedals it might be a good thing to learn some strait steel , another fellow on here wants to see what im building I might post some pics of it Thanks For the info Bill . Russ |
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