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Topic: Hal Rugg? |
Bobby Nelson
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North Carolina, USA
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Bill Ferguson
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Milton, FL USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2018 10:29 am |
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I would guess that it is Hal. Looks like his hands and his old ShoBud to me
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 1 Dec 2018 11:41 am
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Almost positive it's Hal. I seem to remember the shirt. The other steel player was Curly Chalker, and he had his E9 on the back neck. I think Don Helms did a stint with the Wilburns, but it sounds 100% like Hal.
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Bobby Nelson
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North Carolina, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2018 11:43 am
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| And I think I've seen him wearing sweaters like that Bill - kind funny but that's what made me think it was him haha. |
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Bobby Nelson
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North Carolina, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2018 11:46 am
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| Yeah Richard, I knew it wasn't Curly Chalker with a Sho-bud. For me, it's some of the best voicing and general flow I've heard. I love the way he plays the bridge in the second half of the song. |
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scott murray
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Asheville, NC
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Posted 1 Dec 2018 12:08 pm
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lots of great Hal on those Wilburn shows, that's definitely him (with Buddy Spicher). he took over for Don Helms at some point, Curly came in after Hal with Jimmy Capps replacing Spicher.
it's a real treat to hear Hal backing Loretta on the Wilburn shows, since he played on almost all her records at that time. he played on a lot of George Jones stuff too... not sure about 'When the Grass'
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Dave Campbell
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Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 1 Dec 2018 1:39 pm
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110% hal rugg. the wilburn brothers shows are a goldmine of great steel playing as well as combo playing.
i love the line at the end... "george jones; when he sings a song, it has been sung". |
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Bill Lowe
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Connecticut
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Johnny Cox
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Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 1 Dec 2018 4:23 pm
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No doubt that is Hal.
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Paul King
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Gainesville, Texas, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2018 5:52 pm
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| Johnny Cox is right, definitely Hal Rugg. Hal could send chills down my spine with his country playing. |
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Walter Stettner
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Vienna, Austria
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Posted 1 Dec 2018 11:58 pm
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Hal for sure. Curly was the other regular player on those shows (with the E-9th on the back neck). Some of the earlier WB Shows also had Don Helms as featured player. Band also includes Buddy Spicher on fiddle and Jimmy Capps on Lead Guitar.
Kind Regards, Walter
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Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 2 Dec 2018 12:37 am
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It was Hal. He did a thing with his left fingers where he would splay them out like he was measuring the distance to the next fret before he would move the bar down the neck. Charleton pointed it out to me when we where going over some bar accuracy exercises.
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Posted 3 Dec 2018 2:12 am
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Bob,
Hal spent several years tracking with a Shobud before switching to his PP. Changing the fingers behind the bar really changes the tone and sustain on those old Bud's, especially around the 12th 7th and 5th fret areas as he was here....The reason for his splaying has nothing to do with measuring frets.
I spent a lot of time with Hal and we talked about trying to get more sustain out of the Sho-Buds of which he talked specifically about this splaying as a means to enhance the tone and sustain....He talked me into switching from my Bud to a PP as he did because of those issues...Bud's had dead overtone spots whereas most PP's did not, they were more evenly distributed which is why they sustain much longer than Bud's.....Its all about variances in tone and sustain..Also as a side note I sometimes lift my behind the bar fingers completely off the strings on some frets in sessions for an effect...Personally I vary the behind the bar fingers as part of my connection with the sonics of the instrument.
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manny escobar
From:
portsmouth,r.i. usa
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Posted 3 Dec 2018 4:33 am
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| Wow! I have a lot of respect for professionals like Mr Franklin who are aware of the nuances that produce such perfect tone. |
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Bobby Nelson
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North Carolina, USA
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Posted 15 Dec 2018 2:12 pm
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| I have much respect for Mr Franklin who'd share his knowledge with a lowly mut like me haha! As always, thanks for your insight Paul. What you describe of the sustain factors between Buds and Emmons, in a way, seems like the differences between Stratocasters and Les Pauls to me - I was always a Stratocaster guy because you had to really aggressively play the heck out of them, and then they would give you tone like no other. |
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Gary Spaeth
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Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 15 Dec 2018 4:46 pm
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| is that brown one a crossover or a professional? i think he played both models as well as a his old fingertip in the earlier shows. sounded great on all. |
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Brett Lanier
From:
Madison, TN
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Posted 16 Dec 2018 6:44 am
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| Gary Spaeth wrote: |
| is that brown one a crossover or a professional? i think he played both models as well as a his old fingertip in the earlier shows. sounded great on all. |
The natural finish one (if I'm not mistaken) is a Permanent that was made after the Permanents were discontinued, around 67 or 68, I believe. That guitar came up for sale a few months ago on reverb.com. I sorta nudged a friend into buying it, so I got to spend a week or two with it at home getting it functional again. I'm not an expert on Sho-Bud hardware, but the undercarriage is all later stuff, nothing welded like an old Permanent, and has a system in place for accomplishing lowers on strings that also have raises. It has 4 knee levers and coil taps on both pickups, which sounded really good! I didn't measure the resistance but tapping the coils took out a lot of the midrange honk. It's a really nice sounding guitar with a beautiful cabinet, and needless to say, very exciting to get to check out and play.
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