Oouuch!!

Kevin Hatton · From: Buffalo, N.Y.

Terry, take my advice. Use 11.5's. You'll never break another one. been there done that.

Curt Langston · Posted 6 Jan 2006 3:02 am

Bobbe, no apology needed my friend! We're all family here, just sharing a few laughs!

Walter Hamlin · From: Talladega, Alabama, USA

I hardly ever break one on my Mullen but I do quite often on my other guitars. Sonbone said he purchased his strings in bulk from Musicians Friend, so do I and I haven't had any problem with them over the years. I don't believe there is a dimes worth of difference in strings anyway. Why pay a high price when they are changed frequently.

Rick Collins · From: Claremont , CA USA

I know Terry's question doesn't refer to the bridge end, but:

Why don't more manufacturers of pedal steel guitars use the pull bridge, instead of the roll bridge?

Are Excel and Anapeg in collusion; or do they have a patent on the pull system?

[This message was edited by Rick Collins on 06 January 2006 at 08:29 AM.]

Ray Minich · From: Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra

Department of Labor recommends new OSHA Reg's for steelers...

Leather gloves
Elbow Pads
Goggles/Safety Glasses
Ear protection

Now try playing the darn thing

John Cox · From: Texas, USA

Terry,
Get yourself a Carter. I seldom break 3rds on mine. After owning a lot of steels, I found the ones that use a wide width finger and no annoying brass pin. J.C.

John Bresler · From: Thornton, Colorado

Terry:

I used to break that #3 about every 3 weeks on my U-12 Mullen and they were Jagwires. I got a set of Frenchy's Steel Mill's that are manufactured by SIT and I seldom ever break a string anymore between changes. Made a great difference in my flinching reflexes, too. You play better relaxed without worrying about string breakage.

richard burton · From: Britain

The obvious solution is to use a thinner gauge.
I've used 10's for years, changing them every three or four gigs, and have never broke one on stage.
I've also never had any problem with a thinner string not giving enough signal.

Larry Behm · From: Mt Angel, Or 97362

PP players will not like this BUT, I back out the lower screw on the 3rd string so that the angle breaking over the finger is less pronounced. This then means that the finger does not come to stop at the body but I have not noticed this being a problem in intonation or sustain.

I change my Ernie Ball reinforced .011 3rd string after about 6 nights of playing, use to be about 5 nights, I just gained a whole 5 hours of life.

Larry Behm

Ron Sodos · From: San Antonio, Texas USA

I own a d10 Fessy which I play almost every weekend. I also own a d10 Zum which I play most every day for minimum an hour or 2. I broke a .17 (5th string) about a month ago at a gig on the Fessy. Other than that i haven't broken any strings at all for a year or so. I change them every couple of months(I should change more often). I play hard too. Lots of uptempo stuff. On my old Shobud I used to break strings alot but not since i bought these 2 guitars.

Terry Edwards · From: Florida... livin' on spongecake...

Well, I'm still breaking thirds mostly at the bridge end about every 3 weeks. It scares me half to death when they go but it doesn't cut me like the nut end break did.

I don't attribute it to the guitar. Maybe I'm just a little too aggressive on those A/B pedals!

i'm to the point where i'm willing to try banjo strings!

Terry

Bill Crook · From: Goodlettsville, TN , Spending my kid's inheritance

O.K. Guys.........
Let me preface this post by saying I have a "Lawrance(sp??)705 pick-up on my "Marrs" 3+4 PSG.

I have found that if I use a 0.010 string instead of a 0.011, I have no problem with breakin' strings. Now, some may say that the 0.010 is a bit too tinny for them, I notice that all in all, it rings out just as loud as the 0.011 or the 0.015 dose.

The thing here is :

You do not need to pull the 0.010 up as much as you do the 0.011..... thus less stress on the string, less stress on the pulleys, and a FASTER change in the freq as the pedal is pressed.

Usually whenever I break a 3rd string, Its in the middle somewhere. I haven't really checked out the string but I believe it's because of physical ware-out of the string material.

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Mark Fasbender · Posted 18 Jan 2006 12:35 am

Hey Terry........... Im in SLC,we may know each other.

A heavier string will get to pitch faster than a lighter string . Less throw required. I have the best luck with a .012 on my G#.
Also sounds better IMO. This doesnt include wound strings, The core size is what determines throw on them. It is interesting how different guitars treat the 3rd string differently.
Also , if you play the B pedal all the time when you really only need the A pedal, you will break G# more often. Just an observation.

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Mark

Charles Curtis · Posted 18 Jan 2006 3:39 am

I believe that tuning just 5 cents too sharp can contribute to this. That was my problem.

Wayne Baker · From: Oklahoma

I use SIT strings on my Emmons. Of course when I'm playing regularly, I change strings weekly.

Wayne Baker

Barry Blackwood · Posted 18 Jan 2006 5:27 am

Roger (Shakelton) I see you're from the Dan Quail school of spelling ....

David L. Donald · From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

I use jagwires on an old Bud and rarely break an 3rd.
But when it does it is scary for sure.

Bobbe Seymour · From: Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.

Terry, I have sent the answer to your problem out today, sorry I took so long.

I sent you an e-mail telling you this but due to our horrible snow storm last night, the mail server is down.

Bobbe Seymour

Terry Edwards · From: Florida... livin' on spongecake...

Thanks Bobbe!

Terry

Paddy Long · From: Christchurch, New Zealand

In the 2 years or so since I changed to Jagwires, I have hardly broken a 3rd string. I usually change a whole set before anything goes west -- they just seem to be more durable!

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Alan Harrison · From: Murfreesboro Tennessee, USA

My Willy third string lasts about 3 weeks, my Emmons last about a week and a half depending on how much I'm playing. Somewhat longer for the fifth. I don't do club work anymore but if I am playing a show or a private party, I just change out the third and fifth. To me it's worth a couple of bucks not to have to change a string on the job.
Had a third break at the tuner end about 15 years ago and left a six or so inch red mark across lady's face, she was setting at a table about 5 feet from me. She was very nice about the incident. Have had several "breakers" puncture fingers, arms as well as other parts of my body.

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Bill Mayville · From: Las Vegas Nevada * R.I.P.

At a seminar in 84 ,Jeff said if have one of those guitars that Breaks the third all the time, switch to a .010.I only change
strings once a month.I seldom have a third failer .Buzz Evans changes strings once a year.I can't figure out how he keeps a great tone.
Bill
The begginers Web site www.steelguitarlasvegas.com

Bill Mayville · From: Las Vegas Nevada * R.I.P.

At a seminar in 84 ,Jeff said if have one of those guitars that Breaks the third all the time, switch to a .010.I only change
strings once a month.I seldom have a third failer .Buzz Evans changes strings once a year.I can't figure out how he keeps a great tone.
Bill
The begginers Web site www.steelguitarlasvegas.com

Tim Jones of Kansas · From: Andover, KS, USA

With a Fender 1000, I get all sorts of string breakage. I just have to know my limits.

I was having a terrible time with my E6 neck. The #4 string, a .22 wound would break often. I then opted to put a .18 plain string instead. I still encountered the breakage. I then read somewhere that if you add a hognose clip to the changer, it can lessen the string breakage.

That #4 string hasn't broken since! One advantage of having an old guitar!

Tim Jones ~*Fender 1000 and NOTHING else*~

Pat Burns · From: Branchville, N.J. USA

..Here's the answer to the problem...Bill Hankey's "Lucky 7"...Is Bill still with us?..

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/004621.html

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