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Topic: Anyone just take the pedals off a psg and play it nps? |
Adam Tracksler
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Maine, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2018 5:49 am |
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Considering just taking the pedals off of my S10 and playing it as a g6 nps.
Anyone do that? |
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Bill McCloskey
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Nanuet, NY
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Posted 8 Jul 2018 5:50 am
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Herb Steiner has a few posts about doing just this. He recommends old Mavericks with the gumby headstock.
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Adam Tracksler
From:
Maine, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2018 6:11 am
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| I was thinking about doing it with my Fessenden, nothing perminant... just folding levers and disconnecting pedals. |
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Fred Justice
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Mesa, Arizona
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Posted 8 Jul 2018 6:16 am
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Adam, no need to remove a bunch of parts from the guitar.
Just don't put the pedal rods on it. 
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C. E. Jackson
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Posted 8 Jul 2018 6:26 am
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Approximately 2013, I took all knee levers and foot pedals off my Father's
Sho-Bud Double 10 String, The Professional, and now only play it in that way.
Originally, it had 4 knee levers and 8 foot pedals.
C. E. Jackson
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2018 7:35 am
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| Bill McCloskey wrote: |
| Herb Steiner has a few posts about doing just this. He recommends old Mavericks with the gumby headstock. |
I did exactly that with a rock-a-billy band in the '80s. The legs on a Sho-Bud Maverick are just aluminum tubing available at any hardware store. I cut them to size for standing up. Then I removed the pedals from the pedal bar and attached it halfway up the front legs for stability.
My tuning was E13th, low to high
E G# B D E G# B C# E G#
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Bill McCloskey
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Nanuet, NY
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Posted 8 Jul 2018 7:41 am
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b0b, any other recommended steels for doing this with? Playing the alkire eharp tuning I'm always looking for different 10 strings and lately I've been wondering about just buying a pedal steel and removing the pedals. But not knowing that much about the sound of various pedals, I've never felt confident to pull the trigger.
I've looked for the mavericks that Herb recommends and I've yet to see one come up for sale after he made that post
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2018 8:29 am
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The original Sho~Bud Mavericks with the Gumby headstock are rare, but any Maverick will do. I think some of the later ones were branded by Fender. The MSA Red Baron is another good candidate. Or the Carter Starter.
The bottom line is that you don't need or want that complicated, bulky "all-pull" changer. The older student models used a simple "pull-release" changer with fingers that are one simple piece of metal. That piece, pulled by string tension against the body of the guitar, gives a real nice acoustic coupling that enhances the tone of the instrument. Pull-release pedal steels aren't great mechanically, but they typically sound very good.
If you're lucky enough to find one, the early Marlens (from the Speedy West era) are spectacular pull-release guitars.
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Douglas Schuch
From:
Valencia, Philippines
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Posted 8 Jul 2018 5:11 pm
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Well, I could not find it after a quick search, but I remember someone saying that Junior Brown played in his area, and the airline misplaced his guit-steel - so he needed to borrow a pedal steel for the show. He did not use pedals, and tuned it different. The post explained it, as I recall. Anyone else remember this?
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Bill McCloskey
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Nanuet, NY
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 9 Jul 2018 7:41 am
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That would work. Notice that it has a Fender keyhead. I don't know the exact history, but Sho~Bud and Fender worked together on pedal steels for a while in the '70s.
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