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Topic: Vp jr repair |
Charlie Hansen
From: Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
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Posted 1 Jul 2018 2:20 pm
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I bought a new pot and string kit for my VP jr. And installed them the other day.
The pot was a breeze to install and the string kit introduced the normal problems.
The biggest problem that I encountered was that when I wrapped the string three times around the bobbin I didn't have enough slack in the string to put it over the idler pulley. The pedal seems to work OK so does this make any difference?
The pedal doesn't seem to go to full volume when it's pressed all the way down but maybe it's my imagination.
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated. _________________ I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
on the web at cioe975.ca. |
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Greg Lambert
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 1 Jul 2018 6:01 pm
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Yes this will cause a problem.
1. Cut a coat hanger into and make a hook on one end.
2. Rock the VP to the Off position
3. Disconnect the spring in the VP from the string that goes around the pot with the hook.
4. Wrap the pot 3 times with the string.
5. Use the hook around the spring to pull the spring up and attach the spring to the string around the pot.
This is the important part;
6. With the volume pedal in the off position , pull enough slack in the string so you can turn the pot fully counter clockwise while keeping the pedal in the off position.
{ I am assuming that the VPjr pot is wound the same as the older EB pedals }. then release tension on the spring and remove the hook.
If the pedal moves normal then you have rotated the pot correctly. If the pedal does not move then repeat #6 and turn the pot clockwise.
Your pedal will work perfectly. |
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Charlie Hansen
From: Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
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Posted 2 Jul 2018 3:46 pm
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I've done exactly as you suggest and followed all the instructions that came with the pot and there is no way
I can get enough slack to get the string around the idler pulley. I did actually use the coat hanger hook. _________________ I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
on the web at cioe975.ca. |
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Dan Robinson
From: Colorado, USA
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Posted 2 Jul 2018 9:03 pm
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Charlie, I had similar difficulties.
Now it's all a blank, I can't remember doing the repair, but I am told that my verbal outbursts were punctuated with a lot of bad words. |
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Greg Lambert
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 3 Jul 2018 1:48 pm
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Charlie Hansen wrote: |
I've done exactly as you suggest and followed all the instructions that came with the pot and there is no way
I can get enough slack to get the string around the idler pulley. I did actually use the coat hanger hook. |
You may have to lower the pedal to get enough slack.
I had a very small amount of slack when I did mine but it did work.
Also the string must be around the idler pulley and pot before you attach the spring.
Are you sure you have the right EB string? #6172 |
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Dan Robinson
From: Colorado, USA
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Posted 4 Jul 2018 7:43 am
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Greg Lambert wrote: |
Are you sure you have the right EB string? #6172 |
Good point. EB VP and VP/JR strings are different length. I ordered a VP/JR string kit, but received the regular VP string. It was too long. I reduced the length by tying a knot in the string where it hooks onto the spring.
Got it working fine, but "swore" I would not repeat the experience. I bought a Hilton. The VP/JR rides in my car as a spare. |
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Charlie Hansen
From: Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
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Posted 5 Jul 2018 3:45 am
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I'm not within 200 miles of the pedal right now but I can tell you that there's no way to get enough slack to get the string around the idler pulley. My verbal outburtsts were quite significant as well. It didn't help at all. _________________ I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
on the web at cioe975.ca. |
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Greg Lambert
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2018 7:10 am
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Charlie Hansen wrote: |
I'm not within 200 miles of the pedal right now but I can tell you that there's no way to get enough slack to get the string around the idler pulley. My verbal outburtsts were quite significant as well. It didn't help at all. |
Charlie , can you post a picture of slack , or lack of slack , in your string?
Another possibility would be that you have a defective string length from the manufacture of the string.
If you cant post a pic then post the measurements of both strings and I'll compare them to mine. |
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Charlie Hansen
From: Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
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Posted 5 Jul 2018 6:04 pm
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I will when I get home. _________________ I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
on the web at cioe975.ca. |
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Jerry Recktenwald
From: Louisville KY
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Posted 7 Jul 2018 4:23 am
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Yes ! This is the way to fix it. I worked on mne for over 3 hours before seeing this post. This method is so simple you can fix it in minutes. Thanks JERRY R LOUISVILLE KY _________________ If I couldn't play music I would go nut's.How do people go thru life and not have a hobby? life would be boring. |
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Jerry Recktenwald
From: Louisville KY
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Posted 7 Jul 2018 9:34 am
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When making your pullers from a coat hanger bend it at one end for a handle. Also use a C clamp to hold the pedal as you pull on the spring to hook it to the string. _________________ If I couldn't play music I would go nut's.How do people go thru life and not have a hobby? life would be boring. |
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Greg Lambert
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 9 Jul 2018 9:53 am
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Greg Lambert wrote: |
Charlie Hansen wrote: |
I've done exactly as you suggest and followed all the instructions that came with the pot and there is no way
I can get enough slack to get the string around the idler pulley. I did actually use the coat hanger hook. |
You may have to lower the pedal to get enough slack.
I had a very small amount of slack when I did mine but it did work.
Also the string must be around the idler pulley and pot before you attach the spring.
Are you sure you have the right EB string? #6172 |
Also the string must be around the idler pulley and pot before you attach the spring. |
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Charlie Hansen
From: Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
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Posted 9 Jul 2018 10:37 am
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I tried it again today but there still isn't any slack.
I'll have to use it as it is for now. The string kit is the #6172 so it should work.
I pulled the spring up as far as I could but I was afraid to break the hooks off the spring. _________________ I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
on the web at cioe975.ca. |
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Greg Lambert
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 9 Jul 2018 6:48 pm
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Charlie Hansen wrote: |
I tried it again today but there still isn't any slack.
I'll have to use it as it is for now. The string kit is the #6172 so it should work.
I pulled the spring up as far as I could but I was afraid to break the hooks off the spring. |
Guess I'm at a loss , I have no idea why it wont fit. Probably have to make your own string. |
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Charlie Hansen
From: Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
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Posted 10 Jul 2018 10:36 am
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I wonder what the strings are. They seem to be waxed or coated with something. _________________ I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
on the web at cioe975.ca. |
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Greg Lambert
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 10 Jul 2018 6:16 pm
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Charlie I have some wax coated string. If you send me your address I'll send you some. I put some on one of my old EB's about 8 years ago and its still there and useable. |
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Dom Franco
From: Beaverton, OR, 97007
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Posted 11 Jul 2018 10:19 am
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I have been using Ernie Ball VPJR pedals for 10+ years (I always carry a spare) Yes replacing a string can be difficult until you make your own tools. You have to think like an engineer... but it's not rocket science.
If you seem to not have enough slack for the last pulley, you just need to make a hook to pull the spring forward a bit more and hold it there while you use another wire hook to loop the string over that last little roller in front.
That spring will extend quite a bit before stretching "too far" to be effective during normal usage.
Dom _________________ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYG9cvwCPKuXpGofziPNieA/feed?activity_view=3 |
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Charlie Hansen
From: Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
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Posted 11 Jul 2018 2:28 pm
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Greg Lambert wrote: |
Charlie I have some wax coated string. If you send me your address I'll send you some. I put some on one of my old EB's about 8 years ago and its ystill there and useable. |
I'm in Canada but if you want to send it include you address and I'll be glad reimburse you for the string and postage. I'll PM you my address. _________________ I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
on the web at cioe975.ca. |
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