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Topic: Using a 12 ga. String Instead Of An 11 ga. |
Tommy Shown
From: Denham Springs, La.
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Posted 12 Aug 2018 6:47 pm
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Maybe I can get some input. Tonight at the house while practicing I broke my third string which is my 11 gauge. Now here's what I got saw Paul Franklin the other day talk he uses a 12 gauge.
Did Paul change the gauge of the first string even though the gauge is the same as the third? |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 12 Aug 2018 6:56 pm
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I wouldn't think so. The .012 third makes a fuller sound, and a shorter pull with a little stiffer pedal because the tension is higher.
And, oh yeah...it hurts like hell if it ever snaps when you're playing! |
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Mike Wheeler
From: Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 12 Aug 2018 8:18 pm
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Been using an .012 for the 3rd string for over 2 decades. Never had one break,(thank God!!) and the tone is far better than any .011, or .0115 I've ever tried. _________________ Best regards,
Mike |
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Ken Pippus
From: Langford, BC, Canada
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Posted 12 Aug 2018 8:41 pm
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And you can get ‘em cheap when you toss away the .012 from your C6 high G to put on a D! |
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James Flaherty
From: California, USA
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Posted 12 Aug 2018 9:10 pm
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.012's are the best. They have more guts, more sustain and better tone. |
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Billy Carr
From: Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
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Posted 13 Aug 2018 1:48 am Psg
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Been using a .012 for a long, long time since I heard Jeff Newman talkin' about it. Here's what I use: .013,.015,.012,.014,.018P,.022W,.026W,.030W,.034W &.038W. Only use Live Steel Strings, Nickel Wound. Ray Thomas, Goldsboro, NC is my string source also. No tuning issues or breakage. Best I've ever used. Thanks. |
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Johnie King
From: Tennessee, USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2018 5:56 am
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Billy I also love the live strings!!!!! |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 13 Aug 2018 6:32 am
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Seems to me the problem is with that 15 on the 2nd string!
When I was using a 10 on the third string I noticed I had to exert a great deal of bar pressure to get a good tone out of the the third string.
I changed the first string to a 12 and the 2nd string to a 14 and the third string to an 11. Helped tremendously.
I tried a 12 on the 3rd and the standard 15 on the 2nd and 13 on the 1st.
It was just too scary tuning that 12 up to G# and I didn't think it sounded much better than going to the 11 on 3rd, 14 on 2nd and 12 on 1st |
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Tom Spaulding
From: Tennessee, USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2018 7:18 am Re: Using a 12 ga. String Instead Of An 11 ga.
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Paul's gauges: NYXL1238PS
Tommy Shown wrote: |
Maybe I can get some input. Tonight at the house while practicing I broke my third string which is my 11 gauge. Now here's what I got saw Paul Franklin the other day talk he uses a 12 gauge.
Did Paul change the gauge of the first string even though the gauge is the same as the third? |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2018 7:20 am
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It's hard to beat the tone you get with a Live Steel sting on the 3rd by using a 12.
Erv |
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Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 13 Aug 2018 8:21 am
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I get a good tone from my Jagwire .012" 3rd, too, Erv. I think it's entirely due to the gauge rather than who packaged and sold it.
I always thought the .011" sounded thin compared to the other strings in the pack. Going to an .012" has alleviated that for me. _________________ Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2018 8:28 am
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Roger,
I have used a 12 for several years and bought from quite a few different vendors.
However, I get the best tone from that string by using one from Live Steel Strings.
Erv |
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James Flaherty
From: California, USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2018 1:18 pm
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Tuning a .012 to pitch can be a bit scary but even if it snaps and whips your knuckle it's worth the sound.
It don't hurt nearly as much as having your knuckles slapped with a wooden ruler. lol |
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Jonathan Cullifer
From: Gallatin, TN
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Posted 13 Aug 2018 2:06 pm
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I like them and use them, never had one break, and they stay in tune well. I use a .0115 on my Carter because the lower return springs can't handle the tension. |
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Paddy Long
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 13 Aug 2018 6:24 pm
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When I first started playing in 1978 I used .011's ... they broke all the time and sounded thin, so I changed to .012's and they stopped breaking, sounded a lot fuller, and just made the guitar sound so much better ! I have used them on everything ever since - and I can't remember the last time I broke a string. Mind you I change them every month regardless :-} _________________ 14'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
08'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
94' Franklin Stereo D10 9+8
Telonics, Peterson, Steelers Choice, Benado, Lexicon, Red Dirt Cases. |
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Bobby Nelson
From: North Carolina, USA
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Posted 15 Aug 2018 2:55 pm
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OK, here's a newbie stupid question: I bought a set of Franklins with the 12 on the 3rd. I'm almost sure the strings that came on it have an 11. So, am I going to have to readjust some thing with a heavier string? As a 6-string player, I always liked heavy strings (I used a 13 on my E) since Stevie Vaughn hepped me up on them in 78 - the tone is superior. |
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Tyler Hall
From: Mt. Juliet, TN
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Posted 16 Aug 2018 12:53 am
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The only time I ever break a 0.12 is when I first put them on. I might break 1 or 2 whey they first pull to pitch but I haven't broken one while playing in so long I can't remember. Of course now that I say that it'll happen tonight...
Actually I can't remember the last time I broke anything while playing. And I'm usually ashamed of how long I play my guitars before I string them. I've yet to find another string that'll last as long as a set of Boomers. _________________ www.joshturner.com
www.ghsstrings.com |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 16 Aug 2018 4:12 am
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It should be fine.
Two things change string reaction.
At the same gauge, higher tension means the string will need a longer pull (or react slower, depending on your viewpoint)/lower tension reacts faster (or takes a shorter pull
At the same tension, thicker gauges need a shorter throw (react more quickly)/lighter gauges react slower.
So changing from an 11 to 12 means it'll go both ways at the same time, and need almost no changing. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 16 Aug 2018 11:13 am
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That 012 string ripped me open a few times, and I personally don't like the pedal feel. too much tension for my taste. I prefer the 0115 as its a good compromise.. Better sound than an 011, but not as tight as a 012,,,,bob _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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