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Tim LeBlanc


From:
California, USA
Post Posted 19 Jun 2018 7:24 am     Reply with quote

I’m a 6 string player and am pretty new to pedal steel. It would be great to have an amp to cover both and be able to switch back and forth easily. I play a vintage tweed Fender Bassman but would need something with two channels. Dual Showman’s are pretty reasonably priced as are Vibrasonics. The Milkman Sideman also looks great and was designed for this application. Do any of you Steelers have experience and recommendations?

Thanks,

TL
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Tom Wolverton


From:
San Diego, CA
Post Posted 19 Jun 2018 8:08 am     All good Reply with quote

All of your options should work well. But this might be really dandy:

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=279163&highlight=milkman
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Michael Brebes


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Northridge CA
Post Posted 19 Jun 2018 10:31 am     Reply with quote

I have a Vibrasonic in a head with a 1x15 cabinet underneath that I am just about ready to sell, if you are interested.
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Paul Sutherland


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Placerville, California
Post Posted 19 Jun 2018 10:58 am     Reply with quote

Where are you located in California? If you are in Nor Cal you could come to my place in Placerville and try playing through a 68 Dual Showman non-reverb head, and a 71 Twin Reverb (that has been put into a separate head cabinet, so it's pretty much the same thing as a Dual Showman Reverb.) They are NOT for sale, so there's no pressure. Both are excellent for pedal steel and get used for gigs regularly.
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Tim LeBlanc


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California, USA
Post Posted 19 Jun 2018 1:05 pm     Reply with quote

Paul Sutherland wrote:
Where are you located in California? If you are in Nor Cal you could come to my place in Placerville and try playing through a 68 Dual Showman non-reverb head, and a 71 Twin Reverb (that has been put into a separate head cabinet, so it's pretty much the same thing as a Dual Showman Reverb.) They are NOT for sale, so there's no pressure. Both are excellent for pedal steel and get used for gigs regularly.


Thanks Paul. If I were up there I would take you up on it. I am in Sherman Oaks / L.A. I'm looking at a 66 Dual Showman that's in great shape.
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Tim LeBlanc


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Post Posted 19 Jun 2018 1:07 pm     Re: All good Reply with quote

Tom Wolverton wrote:
All of your options should work well. But this might be really dandy:

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=279163&highlight=milkman


That looks cool Tom. I didn't know MM made a dual channel version of the Half-n-Half.
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Tim LeBlanc


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California, USA
Post Posted 19 Jun 2018 1:38 pm     Reply with quote

Michael Brebes wrote:
I have a Vibrasonic in a head with a 1x15 cabinet underneath that I am just about ready to sell, if you are interested.


Thanks Michael. Is it one the the 90's versions? Any photos?
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Tom Wolverton


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Post Posted 19 Jun 2018 7:57 pm     This is dandy too Reply with quote


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Tim LeBlanc


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California, USA
Post Posted 20 Jun 2018 12:50 am     Re: This is dandy too Reply with quote

Tom Wolverton wrote:


That’s exactly what I was thinking of doing. So the Showman isn’t too loud for 6 string?
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Chris Boyd


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Leonia,N.J./Charlestown,R.I.
Post Posted 20 Jun 2018 4:30 am     Reply with quote

My setup is a '69 Dual Showman Reverb with a Fox cab w/ 15" EV SRO ...looks just like Tom's rig... Sounds super and it's easy to haul...
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post Posted 20 Jun 2018 7:18 am     Reply with quote

The '90s Vibrasonic has two channels, one dedicated for steel and the other for 6 string. Very Happy
Erv
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Jack Hanson


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San Luis Valley, USA
Post Posted 20 Jun 2018 11:07 am     Reply with quote

If your back and finances can handle it, I can't see how you could possibly top a vintage Showman that's been regularly serviced and in top operating condition.

Keep in mind that the original Showman wants to see an 8-ohm load, and the Dual wants to see a 4-ohm load to operate at peak efficiency.

Putting a vintage Fender reverb unit on the front end would be a nice touch.
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Patrick Ickes


From:
Upper Lake, CA USA
Post Posted 20 Jun 2018 11:24 am     Reply with quote

I have a 2 channel Milkman 15.
I've only used it for Pedal Steel, Fiddle, and Electric Mandolin.
All sound excellent.
Patrick
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Michael Brebes


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Northridge CA
Post Posted 20 Jun 2018 11:36 am     Reply with quote

Tim LeBlanc wrote:
Michael Brebes wrote:
I have a Vibrasonic in a head with a 1x15 cabinet underneath that I am just about ready to sell, if you are interested.


Thanks Michael. Is it one the the 90's versions? Any photos?


It is the 80's version Silverface, that has been modified with Blackface biasing and reverb/vibrato on both channels. Vibrosonic, not Vibrasonic. Looks similar to Wolverton's pic of the Showman, with a 1x15 cabinet that is just a couple inches wider than the head. I will take a pic and get it up. I am in Northridge, very close to you.
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Michael Brebes


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Post Posted 21 Jun 2018 4:17 pm     Reply with quote

In fact you could just stop on by and give it a try, see if it is what you are looking for.


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John Groover McDuffie


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LA California, USA
Post Posted 27 Jun 2018 6:06 pm     Reply with quote

I do a lot of doubling and have used a modified SF Deluxe Reverb, a modified BF Bassman* head, a BF Dual Showman head, and a SF Dual Showman Reverb head, all with great results.

With so many great reverb pedals available these days I don't find using a non-reverb amp a problem, and it doesn't splash when it gets jostled, unlike the spring reverb in most amps.

*I modified the Bassman's "bass" channel so it has the same EQ as the "normal" channel.
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Dave Zirbel


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Sebastopol, CA USA
Post Posted 28 Jun 2018 6:12 pm     Reply with quote

How about getting an A/B pedal? Unless you need to set the volume and tone controls different for each instrument.....
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Dave Hopping


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Post Posted 29 Jun 2018 6:41 pm     Reply with quote

A two-channel amp is conceptually the simplest way to double,but you can do it with a one-channel amp as long as a passive A/B box is the last thing in the signal chain before the amp input.You'll probably want to EQ the amp for your steel and stick another EQ between the six-string and the A/B box to compensate for six-string and steel needing different EQ from each other.I've gotten some really good six-string AND steel tones with my Session 500 that way.
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Tim Heidner


From:
Port Arthur, TX
Post Posted 2 Jul 2018 4:56 pm     Reply with quote

Dr. Z Surgical Steel sounds great with both.
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Olli Haavisto


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Jarvenpaa,Finland
Post Posted 13 Jul 2018 4:01 am     Reply with quote

I just found a `68 Showman Reverb head. Sounds great with guitar and pedal steel.
Works great with any of these cabs.... EPS15, K130, D120F.

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Marvin Born


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Ohio, USA
Post Posted 18 Jul 2018 5:02 am     Guitat and steel into one amp Reply with quote

The Telonics rack system with the PRE1000 has two inputs, one for steel and a second for guitar or dobro. There are separate eq controls for each. The PRE1000 was designed to be used with their power amp, but will work fine with any power amp.

It has a built in reverb and dobro simulator as well as a full stereo effects jack system for any rack mounted effects processor.

All Telonics amps are analog, there is no digital conversion of your primary signal. Only the effects is signal is procrssed and returned as a fully wet signal.

Marvin
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Mike Marsh


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Florida, USA
Post Posted 18 Jul 2018 11:06 am     Steel Guitar AMps. Reply with quote

Milkman, Dual Showman and Vibrosonic's are a couple of resistors apart from being the same amps. All Are good but heavy choices depending on configuration.
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Dale Foreman


From:
Crowley Louisiana, USA
Post Posted 19 Jul 2018 9:48 am     Amp Reply with quote

Did you every try a Peavey Vegas 400? It's exactly what you're looking for. I have on I would be willing to sell but it's a heavy ole girl!
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Dale Rottacker


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Post Posted 19 Jul 2018 12:25 pm     Reply with quote

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