| What volume pedal are you using? |
| A pot pedal |
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41% |
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| Hilton |
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29% |
[ 41 ] |
| Telonics |
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22% |
[ 31 ] |
| Goodrich Active Pedal |
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5% |
[ 8 ] |
| None or Other |
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0% |
[ 1 ] |
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Topic: Volume Pedal - Active or Passive? |
Bill L. Wilson
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2018 7:54 pm |
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| I keep three Emmons pot pedals at every gig. I’ve only played thru Hilton and Telonics pedals at steel guitar shows. They work fine, but I’ll stick with my pot pedals, Lil Izzy, a Goodrich Matchbox into a Fender or Peavey amp. Works for me. |
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Carl Mesrobian
From:
Salem, Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2018 8:01 pm Bought a Hilton
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I've just bought a used Hilton and will need some time to play it.
I might also be a "Both" type user. There's something I like about the characteristics of a pot pedal, part of liking it is that I'm used to it!
Time will tell.
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"The better it gets, the fewer of us know it." Ray Brown |
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Ken Byng
From:
Southampton, England
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Posted 15 Jun 2018 12:14 am
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| Jonathan Shacklock wrote: |
I really don't want to give up my olld Sho Bud pedal. Does anyone know if the latest Goodrich pots (rebranded Dunlop?) have a different taper from the Dunlop hot potz as sold by Tom Bradshaw? From the marketing it sounds like they have modelled it on the old AB "J type" taper. It's a big investment to find out since they are apparently sold in fives:.
https://goodrichsoundcompany.com/product/goodrich-bare-pots/ |
Jonathan
The new Goodrich pots DO have a different taper to the Dunlop Hot Potz. More like the AB pot. I cover all bases as I have Telonics, Hilton, Emmons, Sho~Bud (3) and Goodrich pedals. I love a good pot pedal with a pristine 500k log pot for tone, but for me the Telonics pedal delivers a beautiful performance without colouring the tone of my guitars very much. Plus I can power it from a small 24v socket on the front of my Telonics amp.
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Show Pro D10 - amber (8+6), MSA D10 Legend XL Signature - redburst (9+6), Sho-Bud Pro 111 Custom (8+6), Emmons black Push-Pull D10 (8+5), Zum D10 (8x8), Hudson pedal resonator. Telonics TCA-500, Webb 614-E, |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 15 Jun 2018 5:02 am
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I have 3 volume pedals,My favorite is Telonics followed by Hilton followed by Electro Harmonics.
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Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952. |
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 15 Jun 2018 5:19 am
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I added a vote for "none or other", as the Morley I have had for over 25 years uses power (battery) but have no active stages and no pot. It is a non-buffered LED/LDR pedal that emulates a pot pedal. Mine has been given a modified taper to suit me, and uses an external power source for those LEDs.
Borrowed the following quote from the Goodrich OMNI post…
| George Kimery wrote: |
| Is the technology similar to a Hilton or Telonics or does it have a built in buffer instead? |
In order to be "active" it has to have a buffer – one or more (pre)amp-stages – in the signal-way. How the level (volume) regulating components are incorporated with regard to the buffer(s), is irrelevant here, as there are a number of components – active and passive – that can be utilized to regulate levels, and a number of ways to incorporate them.
VCA (Voltage Controlled Amp) pedals fall into the "active" category all by themselves, while LED/LDR or pot pedals need buffer-amps in order to become "active".
A pot pedal preceded by a (separate) buffer, behaves pretty much like an "active" volume pedal. My old Goodrich and Boss pedals fall into that "pseudo active" category, and so does my "passive but powered" Morley. Difference is that my Boss pedals are low-impedance and won't work all that well for PSG PUs without buffers as the resistive load would be too extreme. |
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Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Posted 2 Mar 2019 8:31 pm
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UPDATE... shortly after posting here in June I also bought the new OMNI from Bill Ferguson.... What a GREAT pedal, the ability to go from Active to Passive, and if the Pot takes a dive, being able to push a button and immediately be back in business I thought was worth the price of admission... I really love this pedal, it’s feel and tone and construction are excellent, and like I said, I love the HYBRID idea of having all the basses covered in one pedal.
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Dale Rottacker, Steelinatune™
*2021 MSA Legend, "Jolly Rancher" D10 10x9
*2021 Rittenberry, "The Concord" D10 9x9
*1977 Blue Sho-Bud Pro 3 Custom 8x6
https://msapedalsteels.com
http://rittenberrysteelguitars.com
https://www.telonics.com/index.php
https://www.p2pamps.com
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 2 Mar 2019 9:44 pm
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| 3 old Emmons pot pedals and 3 old Sho-Bud pot pedals with a plethora of different potentiometers under the treadle and all of 'em sound more alike than different. |
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Francesco Porcu
From:
Italy
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Posted 25 Dec 2019 10:09 am Hilton volume pedal active
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I tried connecting my PSG direct to my Quilter Tone Block 202 and it has perfect and powerful sound and volume, then I connected my PSG to the Hilton active volume pedal and I have to say two things:
1) the volume is reduced by a quarter the volume that I have with the pedal connected when I put the knob at 3 when I connect the active Hilton pedal to have the same volume I have to put the knob at 6 then the active pedal steals a quarter of volume.
2) I must say that the sound improves it makes it rounder warmer
Here all in all it can be fine because you increase a little volume and gai and you have a perfect sound, in addition it does not alter the timbo if you play with a little closed volume and when you open the timbre it is always the same
PS: I have never tried a passive Goodrich and therefore I cannot say how it will sound, but I would like to try this to understand the difference between my Hilton and a passive Goodrich. Francesco  |
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Richard Sinkler
From:
aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 25 Dec 2019 11:26 am
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Every volume pedal I have ever had (many over 50 years), pot or active, has cut the volume of the amp by maybe 1/3 - 1/2. The nature of the beast.
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Glenn Taylor
From:
Denver, CO, USA
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Charley Paul
From:
California, USA
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Posted 2 Jan 2020 9:17 am
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I use a Hilton Pro. Keith Hilton was able to customize it with the jacks on the right side in order to accommodate me using it on steel. I went with the Pro in order to be able to power it off of my pedalboard power supply. My pedalboard is usually set up right next to my steel on the floor, so powering the Hilton Pro off of the power brick is really helpful for setup/tear down, and minimizing the rats nest of cables...I really really like this pedal. I tend to use mine with the volume knob relatively low.
I have used a Goodrich Passive and a Lehle Mono Volume before this. Both were great pedals, but I like the Hilton best. I absolutely love the tone of the Goodrich passive, but didn’t want to deal with the hassle of broken strings inside the pedal. I feel like I can just about get the tone of the Goodrich out of the Hilton with the volume on the pedal set low. If I need a bit more cut, I just use my toe to adjust the volume on the pedal. I’m sold on these and have no plans to try any more volume pedals. I may order a second Hilton Pro though...
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