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Steve Atwood

 

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Post  Posted 25 May 2018 6:33 pm    
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I've been practicing this all winter and spring. It's like I'm right there on Kalapaki Beach on Kauai. It's nice not having to take an expensive vacation to get there. Finally made a pretty good video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC3TYFN2aBk

Here's Keola's recording:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyq3QDNaXoc
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Bill Groner


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Post  Posted 26 May 2018 2:23 am    
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Very nice! What kind of lap steel is that you are playing on? Pretty song, pretty lap steel.
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Steve Atwood

 

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Post  Posted 26 May 2018 4:42 am    
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Thanks Bill! It's one of Bill Hatcher's. One solid piece of maple, except for the side strips. Great sustain, which is good for this song because I wanted to let some of the notes ring to get the effect that sounds to me like waves along the shore in parts of the song. It's hard to block all the notes you don't want to ring out, but fun learning different ways to do it. 12-strings are great for experimenting with different kinds of music. Your guitars are very impressive, maybe one day you'll try one.
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Chris Templeton


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Post  Posted 26 May 2018 8:40 am    
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Very nice, Steve, That's a lot of wood shedding! I've been 'shedding on trying to get my thumb moving independently, like yours. I get the bass going and lose track of the thumb as soon as throw some melody notes in.
I used to go down to Kalapaki beach to meet steeler, Ray Knapp, when He was working on a cruise ship. The ship docked in Nawiliwili harbor next to Kalapaki beach.
Have you tried putting on some some scented sun lotion before you practice, to enhance the experience?
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Nic Neufeld


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Post  Posted 26 May 2018 9:07 am    
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Very nice, has that slack key sound which seems like it would work great with a 12 string (almost harp-like?). What's the tuning?

I like how so many songs are named for places in HI. I'm planning my first trip there next year, and it's fun to note many of the places I'll be visiting have songs I know named after them (all the numerous Waikiki songs, Kaimana Hila, Honolulu, Hilo, and Kohala marches, Waipio, Akaka Falls, Hiilawe, maybe Beautiful Kahana if I get up there).
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Steve Atwood

 

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Post  Posted 26 May 2018 9:46 am    
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Chris, I think the key to learning to move the thumb independently, or any other technique for that matter, is to find a song I want to learn badly enough that I can play it over and over again and never get tired of it. I almost fall asleep sometimes just practicing a bass line.

Chris Templeton wrote:

Have you tried putting on some some scented sun lotion before you practice, to enhance the experience?


Hah! ... I'll have to try that -- what's the best scent for attracting any hula girls who might be in range?
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Steve Atwood

 

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Post  Posted 26 May 2018 10:03 am    
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Nic, My tuning, which I first wanted to use for classical guitar songs, is Low to High:
E G A B C D E G B C E G
which includes regular guitar tuning.

For Taro Patch (G) tuning I drop the low E to D.

This song is in Keola's Double Slack tuning, which works with:
D G A B C D E F# B C D F#.

Many beautiful places in Hawaii that inspire music, Lahaina Luna, Hana, Minnehaha, Mauna Kea...
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Chris Templeton


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Post  Posted 26 May 2018 11:47 am    
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You can't go wrong with gardenia flowers. Also Jasmine, plumeria and tuberose, Steve.
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Post  Posted 26 May 2018 4:15 pm    
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great playing steve. the open strings and the single bar notes is a very musical style. you make that guitar sound great!!
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Bert Farroach


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Post  Posted 27 May 2018 1:45 am    
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Special treat, Steve ! Now I see what you meant by "12-string lap steel with alternating bass notes in Slack Key style" Wink For my ears it's also a bit like citer-playing . . . Well done !
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Steve Atwood

 

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Post  Posted 28 May 2018 7:18 am    
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I'll keep that in mind, Chris.

Bill, anyone can make this guitar sound great. Thanks for the high standards and care you put into making it. Something about it makes it easier to play accurately than my other guitars.

Bert, thanks for your comments and keep your excellent tabs and videos coming.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 28 May 2018 8:19 am    
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Pretty! That's the word that comes to mind. Like Bill said, the combination of the open strings and barred strings sounds really sweet.
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Steve Atwood

 

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Post  Posted 28 May 2018 11:01 am    
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Thanks for watching, Doug!

One of the advantages to having 4-6 extra strings is that you can pick harmonics on, say strings 2 and 4, then let them ring out while you play on 1, 3 and 5.

By the way, I'm finding since playing without picks (which I have to do on this guitar because with picks I can't get a good angle of attack on a high string with a fingerpick while picking a low string at the same time with the thumb), that I can get much stronger harmonics because I can get a better grip on the string with my fingertip, and instead of just striking the string, pull up on it and roll it over, twisting it. Don't know why this works but it's better than using a pick, even with a lot of force.
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Bill Leff


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Post  Posted 29 May 2018 7:15 am    
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Chris Templeton wrote:
Very nice, Steve, That's a lot of wood shedding!
Have you tried putting on some some scented sun lotion before you practice, to enhance the experience?
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I learned to surf at Kalapaki Beach.

Back in the 70s when I lived in Hawaii we used Royal Hawaiian Tanning Oil to "enhance" the sun's rays. No sunscreen for us, just a deep, dark tan. Looked great! Ignorance is bliss. Now I've got spots on my face from sun damage but thankfully no cancer and use sunscreen and wear a hat.

Nice playing. Not easy to play slack key on lap steel!
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Steve Atwood

 

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Post  Posted 29 May 2018 2:38 pm    
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Thanks for listening Bill.

I grew up summers on Cape Cod and surfed a little (wiped out a lot) in the 60s. I'd like to try it again now just once, but we're one of the most popular "chomping grounds" in the world for Great White Sharks now because of an explosion in the seal population.

Bill Leff wrote:
Not easy to play slack key on lap steel!


Not unless you're Geri Valdriz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aCL7BaRRP4

or Bobby Ingano:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMPu9vCgXWw
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Bill Leff


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Post  Posted 30 May 2018 6:30 am    
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Thanks for those links Steve. Geri’s video in particular is amazing!
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 30 May 2018 7:21 am    
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That's cool, Steve!
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Steve Atwood

 

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Post  Posted 31 May 2018 2:29 am    
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Thanks Mike, and Aloha to everyone.
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