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Topic: Steel on non Country records |
Dennis Montgomery
From: Western Washington
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Posted 8 Apr 2018 10:03 am
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Very nice, though his steel part in 'Soon' wasn't written for pedal steel and can be played on regular steel. Here's Steve playing it on his Fender Dual Pro 6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb04hwavJ3I
In his early 90's book, "The Steve Howe Guitar Collection" he says, "I've used the Dual 6 for many, many recordings. One of the earliest was the gentle, spacey finale of 'Gates of Delirium', a section we usually referred to as 'Soon' because that's what Jon is singing most of the time."
Regarding his Sho-Bud D10 he says, "On record, I first used the Sho-Bud on 'To Be Over' from 'Relayer'. At the 37:25 mark of the following vid from the same show as the 'Soon' video, during the beginning of the 'To Be Over' solo you can see him mashing those pedals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRWorSM6wX4
I'm a bit of a Steve Howe nut (obviously) and I could be wrong, but AFAIK he only brought the Sho-Bud D10 on tour in '74 and '75 when they played 'To Be Over'. The rest of the 70's tours he usually played all his slide parts on the Fender Dual Pro 6 or on rare occasion a Fender Stringmaster 4 neck _________________ Hear my latest album, "Celestial" featuring a combination of Mullen SD12 and Synthesizers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhh6b_xXTx4&list=PLfXm8aXRTFz0x-Sxso0NWw493qAouK
Hear my album, "Armistice" featuring Fender 400 on every song:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXm8aXRTFz2Pz_GXhvmjne7lPEtsplyW
Hear my Pedal Steel Only playlist featuring Mullen G2 SD12 on covers like Candyman, Wild Horses, Across the Universe & more...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXm8aXRTFz2f0JOyiXpZyzNrvnJObliA |
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Joe Goldmark
From: San Francisco, CA 94131
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Bob Ricker
From: Nashville Tn
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Posted 8 Apr 2018 4:32 pm
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Mason Proffit
Poco
Edgar Winters Round and Round |
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David Mitchell
From: Tyler, Texas
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Posted 8 Apr 2018 5:05 pm
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The old rockers loved pedal steel and some so much they bought and recorded with one themselves like guitar player Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin. He was one of the early MSA players. The pop artist back then like Elton John found them useful too.(B.J Cole) Like Donnie said steel fell from grace in the 80's for all except for a few of the biggest artist like Strait, Twitty and Jackson. Looks like producers would have learned the biggest hit makers used steel guitars but evidently not. |
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Anthony Lis
From: South Dakota, USA
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Posted 8 Apr 2018 7:44 pm
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Jim Fogarty wrote: |
David Gertschen wrote: |
Jeff "Skunk" Baxter's playing on the Doobie Brothers "South City Midnight Lady" has always been one of my favorites. |
Even better....on Steely Dan's "Pearl of the Quarter"
https://youtu.be/9CbL2-nvalE |
That's a fine one, too. |
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Brett Lanier
From: Madison, TN
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Craig A Davidson
From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 9 Apr 2018 6:24 am
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Godfrey Arthur wrote: |
Joseph Napolitano wrote: |
Paul Franklin on " So Nice to be With You", the AM pop hit. I think Paul was around 14 y/o when he did that session. |
Was this the song by Gallery sounding like "Gerry and The Pacemakers meets Herman's Hermits?"
Rarely do we get info from the musical directors of many songs/albums as to why they chose a certain instrument.
My thinking is they used steel on non country songs to cross genre and get a wider audience and sales. |
I have been told that was Paul's first session. _________________ 2013 Williams D-10, 2019 Williams D-10, 1970 Fender Twin, Evans SE200, Fender Tonemaster Twin, Hilton pedal, Jagwire Strings. |
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Russ Tkac
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Posted 9 Apr 2018 6:56 pm
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Very nice Brett and unique use of steel. I like your playing on the Brett Hughes stuff as well. Great playing and tone from the Marlen. |
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Bob Hoffnar
From: Austin, Tx
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Posted 9 Apr 2018 9:18 pm
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Brett, Great work ! Super musical. _________________ Bob |
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Brett Lanier
From: Madison, TN
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Posted 10 Apr 2018 10:15 am
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Hey thanks guys. That Green Empire session was fun. In the end, Taylor said he didn't want any fixes or overdubs, and he left everything we played. Also only had one knee lever (F) on the guitar I used which forced me to play differently. |
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David Gertschen
From: Phoenix, Arizona
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Posted 10 Apr 2018 7:13 pm
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That was new to me, thank you Joe!
The wildest song I heard all day... |
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Bob Hoffnar
From: Austin, Tx
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Rick Kornacker
From: Dixon Springs, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 15 Apr 2018 5:48 am and lest we forget...
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How about the fabulous Lloyd Green on Peter Cooper/Eric Brace "Master Sessions" as well as the "Lloyd Green Album" w/Peter Cooper. I wouldn't necessarily call these projects country, but "Americana" possibly at its best. Found the "Master Sessions" CD at a second-hand music store for $3.99. Still awesome every time you listen! Respectfully submitted, RK _________________ "think MORE...play LESS" |
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Ross Koeberl
From: Minneapolis, MN
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Robert Rogers
From: Manchester,TN
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Posted 10 May 2018 1:25 pm
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Weldon Myrick played on seven bridges road |
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Filipine Helu
From: California, USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2023 1:49 am
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Kapena - Talofa Teine
*sounds like it could be the C6 neck, but I’m pretty sure it’s pedal steel
https://youtu.be/bjKD81_EHIU |
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John Larson
From: Pennsyltucky, USA
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Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Posted 24 Jul 2023 3:00 am
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"Every Thing Must Change" by Paul Young. In my opinion one of the most beautiful songs ever written and recorded. I guess it's B.J. Cole on steel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLPeRDJGKvQ _________________ Fender Kingman, Sierra Crown D-10, Evans Amplifier, Soup Cube. |
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Joe Goldmark
From: San Francisco, CA 94131
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Fred Treece
From: California, USA
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Posted 30 Jul 2023 8:21 am
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That’s really cool, Joe. Like Santo and Johnny go to Bollywood.
And, leave it to the French for coming up with the least boring album cover😎 |
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Mike Polansky
From: Austin, TX
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Posted 30 Jul 2023 12:08 pm
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It was only on the Japanese version of RAM, but the song Horizon has some really beautiful playing by Mr. Leisz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBvJUdBeY5s
The new 10th anniversary edition has the song as a bonus track. |
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Brett Day
From: Pickens, SC
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Posted 1 Aug 2023 9:14 am
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Paul Franklin also comes to mind because he toured with Mark Knopfler and Dire Straits and a few months ago, I was doing some research about records and songs he's played on, and I found out he played steel on a record by R&B artist Toni Braxton on a song called "If I Have To Wait For You". I found out, he also plays steel on a record by a band called PFR, which stands for Pray For Rain, and he's also played on a record with Peter Cetera, former lead singer and bass player with the rock band Chicago |
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John Larson
From: Pennsyltucky, USA
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Posted 2 Aug 2023 4:41 am
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Mike Polansky wrote: |
It was only on the Japanese version of RAM, but the song Horizon has some really beautiful playing by Mr. Leisz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBvJUdBeY5s
The new 10th anniversary edition has the song as a bonus track. |
Agreed, I was listening to the anniversary edition while driving and was dismayed we didn't get that track on the original edition. Superb playing. _________________ Rejoice in the Lord, O ye righteous; praise is meet for the upright. Give praise to the Lord with the harp, chant unto Him with the ten-stringed psaltery. Sing unto Him a new song, chant well unto Him with jubilation. For the word of the Lord is true, and all His works are in faithfulness. The Lord loveth mercy and judgement; the earth is full of the mercy of the Lord.
- Psalm 33:1-5 |
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Jim Fogarty
From: Phila, Pa, USA
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Posted 2 Aug 2023 7:50 pm
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My power/pop band Travel Lanes put out a cd a week before the pandemic closed everything down. Duh-oh!!! So, it never got the attention it deserved, IMO. Anyway, I played PSG on a couple pop tunes, and like how it worked out. Not country at all!
Solos on this:
https://youtu.be/5T3sUtVy_nU
Ambient steel in the intro and verses:
https://youtu.be/MRi2xBRmO1k |
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