INSTRUCTION STRINGS ACCESSORIES MUSIC LINKS
 Visit Our Catalog at SteelGuitarShopper.com for Steel Guitars, Strings, Instruction, Music and Accessories 
Forum Index
where steel players meet online
The Steel Guitar Forum

Post new topic Steel on non Country records
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Reply to topic
Author Topic:  Steel on non Country records
Chris Templeton


From:
The Green Mountain State
Post Posted 12 Mar 2018 11:31 am     Reply with quote

"Top Of The World": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gRiWWcBKvs
_________________
Excel 3/4 Pedal With An 8 String Hawaiian Neck
View user's profile Send private message
Donny Hinson


From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post Posted 14 Mar 2018 3:32 pm     Reply with quote

Sneaky Pete's first (1964) recording:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfCr8fZvk_k

B.J. Cole featured on this one (1974)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzSXSo3dTHU

B.J. here too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBWfUc5jKiM
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Mike Neer


From:
NJ
Post Posted 14 Mar 2018 6:09 pm     Reply with quote

Rick Derringer with Edgar Winter Group and on his own record All American Boy.

https://youtu.be/hz5PYxEHb6o
_________________
Buy Steelonious!
My Steel Instructional materials site
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Franklin


Post Posted 16 Mar 2018 3:20 pm     Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67CNsnCbbxM

Country Rock in 7/4
View user's profile Send private message
Bill McCloskey


Post Posted 16 Mar 2018 4:21 pm     Reply with quote

Linda Ronstadt
_________________
Beard MA-6, Beard MA-8, Beard R model, Beard R Vintage Model, 3 Eharps, Clinesmith aluminum cast 8 string, Adams 8 string dobro, Duesenburg Fairytale, Sonny Jenkins custom 12 string lapsteel.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Barry Blackwood


Post Posted 16 Mar 2018 6:24 pm     Reply with quote

Quote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67CNsnCbbxM

Country Rock in 7/4

Played in a band that would occasionally play this for all the line dancers, creating a hilarious clusterf**k every time! Shocked Cool
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Bill L. Wilson


From:
Oklahoma, USA
Post Posted 16 Mar 2018 9:29 pm     Man, What a Drummer!!! Reply with quote

Vinnie Colaiuta, One Really Fantastic Drummer. Old Sting is a different breed of cat.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Joachim Kettner


From:
Germany
Post Posted 16 Mar 2018 10:52 pm     Reply with quote

BJ cole plays also on this cut by Gary Brooker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kochb7QH6o
The rhythm is also a bit complex. Drums by Dave Mattacks.
_________________
Fender Kingman, Sierra Crown D-10, Evans Amplifier, Soup Cube.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Franklin


Post Posted 18 Mar 2018 6:39 pm     Reply with quote

Joachim,
Your curiosity as to who and why the decision is made to hire a steel is what I thought of asking when I interviewed Dann Huff...Dann's personal resume spans the spectrum from Madonna to Merle Haggard...It was his decision to put steel on the sessions he produced for Peter Cetera, Kelly Clarkson, and Megadeth. Even though I was who he hired I never knew the reason steel was added...His insights are very interesting.
Paul
View user's profile Send private message
Tim Herman


From:
Alberta, Canada
Post Posted 19 Mar 2018 3:34 am     Reply with quote

Greg Leisz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzX0rhF8buo
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
David Gertschen


From:
Phoenix, Arizona
Post Posted 22 Mar 2018 5:39 pm     Reply with quote

Jeff "Skunk" Baxter's playing on the Doobie Brothers "South City Midnight Lady" has always been one of my favorites.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
scott murray


From:
Asheville, NC
Post Posted 28 Mar 2018 9:35 am     Reply with quote

this has turned into a great thread. might get more action in the Steel Players section?

on the subject of Megadeth... which album or songs feature your steel mr. Franklin?

and let's not forget this little ditty by Parliament:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFNM7nG2OUQ


Greg Leisz is all over that last Daft Punk album which was huge.

or Bruce Bouton's work with Maxwell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkeCNeHcmXY
_________________
Sho~Bud Pro III D-10 / Sierra Session D-10 / Collier 8-string dobro / Oahu 6-string lap steel
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Douglas Schuch


From:
St John, US Virgin Islands
Post Posted 28 Mar 2018 2:45 pm     Reply with quote

Jimmy Buffett was originally considered more country, but kind of defined his own genre (I call it Coconut Country). Pedal steel has been a part of his sound throughout the years.
_________________
"No shirt, no shoes, no problem."
Sign at Ivan's Stress-Free Bar, Jost Van Dyke, BVI
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger
Bob Hoffnar


From:
Austin, Tx
Post Posted 4 Apr 2018 10:53 pm     Re: Steel on non Country records Reply with quote

Joachim Kettner wrote:
I often wondered what made artists or producers decide to employ steel (maybe only for one track) on a record. There are many examples: Carpenters, Clapton, Tim Hardin.
The only info I have is for "Teach Your Children". Is there any more information?


I seem to have made a little world of my own playing steel in different settings. In my experience producers hire me because they see me playing or are in a band I'm playing in. One chain of events that led to some very successful work went like this:

I met a really wild improviser/composer at a club in NYC. I told him I have a pedalsteel and a gig playing quiet drone/noise music at this weird restaurant downtown. Come by and play. They feed us and we make a little cash. He shows up and its super fun playing so we get together once a week at his place basically getting drunk and experimenting with sounds. He writes an opera that gets produced that does a couple concerts. The piano player for the opera is an arranger. A year later I get a call from him to fill out some sounds in the string section for this pop record he is doing an orchestration for. The producer of the pop record see's this pedalsteel player that is fitting into a very dense arrangement. So he hires me for an overdub session on a tune by this new band called Hem. It goes really well so I end up all over the record and they hire me to tour with them as well as record.

During the course of all this I get known as a pedalsteel player who can hang with different musics. So I get calls for all sorts of stuff. NYC was just a fantastic place at the time. Everybody was looking different sounds and combinations. Plus I got a ton of work playing real simple pretty stuff from the Hem connection.

There is some truly wild and great music happening in Austin now that is not connected to the country scene.
_________________
Bob
http://liminalsoundseries.com/
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Glenn Suchan


From:
Austin, Texas
Post Posted 5 Apr 2018 10:37 am     Reply with quote

Freddie Roulette (all of the albums on which he recorded). Here's a track from his Back in Chicago album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV5_lqaVf9I

Pete Drake on Harvey Mandel's 1968 album, Cristo Redentor. Here's a track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHw0dOAFqvo

Glenn Ross Campbell with The Misunderstood. Here's a track from their eponymously titled 1965 album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzs7KqAT6pE

The Misunderstood moved to England and all members except Glenn left and were replaced by Brits and the band became Juicy Lucy. Juicy Lucy from their eponymously titled, 1969 album. Here's a track (note: this track fades and comes back after about 15 seconds):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ydyr5SN4oI

Keep on pickin'!
Glenn
_________________
Steelin' for Jesus
View user's profile Send private message
Jim Fogarty


From:
Phila, Pa, USA
Post Posted 5 Apr 2018 5:33 pm     Reply with quote

One early hit that helped start the steel on pop records trend.....

My buddy and occasional musical partner Iain (back then, Ian) Matthews and his band Matthews Southern Comfort......featuring Gordon Hundley on steel.

#1 UK hit and tons of US airplay in 1970....

"Woodstock"

https://youtu.be/qIHfuihoz70
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Fred Treece


From:
California, USA
Post Posted 5 Apr 2018 8:25 pm     Reply with quote

Bob Hoffnar, great story and great answer!

I don’t have “information” as such, but like others have said, I believe an open minded and educated producer is a key ingredient for recording with pedal steel.

It also helps to have an open-minded artist that isn’t afraid to expose their fan base to a song with a touch of twang on their otherwise non-country album. That seems to be much more of a rarity than it was in the 60’s, 70’s, and even into the 80’s. Dire Straits with Paul Franklin - what a gem of a recording On Every Street is! It seemed so obvious after only the first time listening to it. Of course this band will sound great with pedal steel! Why didn’t we think of it before?
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Ford Cole


From:
Texas
Post Posted 6 Apr 2018 3:21 pm     Reply with quote

David Crowder, contemporary Christian artist, sprinkles a little steel into several of his songs and it fits very well! Does anyone know of other artists who use steel in this particular style?
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Rick Bernauer


From:
Kansas, USA
Post Posted 6 Apr 2018 5:45 pm     Reply with quote

For any of you who haven't checked out Bob Hoffnar's work on the Hem albums, his approach is a text book example of leaving out the "country cliches" (but I do love them) and keeping the haunting beauty of the pedal steel. That's how you get producers and bands to be willing to give PSG a try outside the country genre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFQrH9w8VM4 - Redwing by Hem.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Anthony Lis


From:
South Dakota, USA
Post Posted 6 Apr 2018 8:27 pm     Reply with quote

David Gertschen wrote:
Jeff "Skunk" Baxter's playing on the Doobie Brothers "South City Midnight Lady" has always been one of my favorites.


Yes—a fine song/fine steel-playing.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Jim Fogarty


From:
Phila, Pa, USA
Post Posted 6 Apr 2018 8:31 pm     Reply with quote

David Gertschen wrote:
Jeff "Skunk" Baxter's playing on the Doobie Brothers "South City Midnight Lady" has always been one of my favorites.


Even better....on Steely Dan's "Pearl of the Quarter"

https://youtu.be/9CbL2-nvalE
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Olaf van Roggen


From:
The Netherlands
Post Posted 7 Apr 2018 6:37 am     Reply with quote

When I was in my teens my dad loved Rock n Roll and Rockabilly too. I never liked it, one of his favourite singer was Robert Gordon.

I remember a country song on one of his albums that I really liked, especially the pedal steel guitar part.

Robert Gordon must have listened to country songs too i guess.

"Standing on the outside of her door" with I think Lloyd Green on pedal steel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6zradYHnwI
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Dennis Montgomery


From:
Western Washington
Post Posted 7 Apr 2018 4:45 pm     Reply with quote

From the British progressive rock world Steve Howe played his D10 Sho-Bud on the Yes song, "To Be Over" (1974)...this was the first time I ever heard a pedal steel! He also used it on a couple songs from his 1975 and 1994 solo albums. He plays slide more frequently than pedal steel using a double neck Fender Dual Pro on the Yes songs, "And You And I" (1972) and "Going for the One" (1977) as well as many songs off his solo albums Wink


_________________
2018 Mullen G2 SD-12, 1986 MCI Arlington SD10, 2 1967 Fender 400's
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Tom Spaulding


From:
Tennessee, USA
Post Posted 7 Apr 2018 6:44 pm     Reply with quote

Steve Howe on a double-neck playing "Soon" from Relayer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pNm2VqLPx4
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Doug Cassell


From:
San Antonio Texas, USA
Post Posted 7 Apr 2018 7:35 pm     Reply with quote

Tom Spaulding wrote:
Steve Howe on a double-neck playing "Soon" from Relayer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pNm2VqLPx4


Look at Steve’s face on that video. He is totally on acid! Very Happy
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Jump to:  

Our Online Catalog
Strings, CDs, instruction,
steel guitars & accessories

www.SteelGuitarShopper.com

Steel Guitar Music
Instrumental steel guitar CDs for your permanent collection
www.SteelGuitarMusic.com

BIAB Styles
Ray Price Shuffles
for Band-in-a-Box

by Jim Baron

Please review our Forum Rules and Policies

The Steel Guitar Forum
148 South Cloverdale Blvd.
Cloverdale, CA 95425 USA

Support This Forum

advertisement