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Jerry Dragon


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Post Posted 2 Feb 2018 3:38 am     Reply with quote

I am a newbie and not familiar with the name, can anyone help me out. I am thinking of making an offer on this guitar?
https://westernmass.craigslist.org/msg/d/pedal-steel-guitar/6473669436.html
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John Swain


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Newberry,SC
Post Posted 2 Feb 2018 5:31 am     Reply with quote

The Jackson family built the Sho-Bud guitars since the early 60s. These Jackson steels are moden guitars, built very well. This is an exceptional deal!
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Ron Hogan


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Post Posted 2 Feb 2018 6:20 am     Reply with quote

After all these years, the Jacksons are still inventive. They had a lot to do with helping their Dad, Shot come up with new ideas.


I thought ght about interviewing them as I don't live far from them and making the audio public.

https://www.jacksonsteelguitar.com

Ron


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Lee Baucum


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Post Posted 2 Feb 2018 6:26 am     Reply with quote

Is that a pull/release changer system? There appears to be some springs on the keyhead end of the guitar.
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Jerry Dragon


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Post Posted 2 Feb 2018 6:38 am     Reply with quote

Lee Baucum wrote:
Is that a pull/release changer system? There appears to be some springs on the keyhead end of the guitar.


I don't know enough to answer your question and I have not spoken to the owner.
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Ross Shafer


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Petaluma, California
Post Posted 2 Feb 2018 7:21 am     Reply with quote

These are pretty neat guitars Jerry, if I recall correctly it is a clever variant on the pull-release theme. Eat coast Steeler Karen Sarkisian had one of these, she might be a good person to find through the forum and ask. I think these get pretty high marks from their owners.
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Jerry Dragon


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Post Posted 2 Feb 2018 9:25 am     Reply with quote

it is probably a total of a six hour drive for me to get it so I have to do some research to make sure. I emailed him and offered 1500.00 but have not heard back. Also I won't have the cash till next week.
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post Posted 2 Feb 2018 9:48 am     Reply with quote

If I'm not mistaken, the raises are done on the right end of the guitar and the lowers on the left end.
Regarding the lowers, I believe they are set up for specific strings from the factory and there is not changing them.
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Stu Schulman


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Ulster Park New Yawk
Post Posted 2 Feb 2018 10:26 am     Reply with quote

Jerry,Yes Karen either has one of had one,I played one in Phoenix a few years ago and it was a really great guitar!
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Charley Bond


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Inola, OK, USA
Post Posted 2 Feb 2018 12:23 pm     Jackson Guitars Reply with quote

If you go over & try out this guitar & it fits you in the way that it's made, you'll be a happy camper & that guitar is $700 less than I sold mine for.

Good Luck
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b0b


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Cloverdale, Northern California
Post Posted 2 Feb 2018 2:03 pm     Reply with quote

Lee Baucum wrote:
Is that a pull/release changer system? There appears to be some springs on the keyhead end of the guitar.


The raises are at the changer end and the lowers work in the tuning keyhead.
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Brett Day


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Pickens, SC
Post Posted 2 Feb 2018 11:56 pm     Reply with quote

Jackson guitars are awesome! I play a Blackjack Custom and it's the best steel I've played. The Jackson family-David, Harry, and Dawn know how to build wonderful steels with great playability, sound, tone, looks, and pedal action!
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Jerry Dragon


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Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 2:44 am     Reply with quote

I would like to take the time to thank the two forum members who after reading this thread tried to buy the guitar out from under me by having it shipped. Thank you again. I have now learned never to post a link asking about something I might want to buy, I thought about it before posting, I should have thought more. I know all is fair in love and war, but it still ticks me off. We did make a deal and if it is still available next weekend I will drive over and pick it up, I can't free up the time till then. So if you two feel like driving and you can get there before me, it's yours.
Sincerely.
Jerry


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Jerry Dragon


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Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 2:51 am     Re: Jackson Guitars Reply with quote

Charley Bond wrote:
If you go over & try out this guitar & it fits you in the way that it's made, you'll be a happy camper & that guitar is $700 less than I sold mine for.

Good Luck


I hope the gent who owns it knows how to play, because I am just a beginner and really don't know how to evaluate one. If he plays it and it sounds good, and I play it and I like it, I guess that is the best I can do. That is one reason I asked here about it because I have no one nearby who plays that could check it out for me, and I have not heard much about these particular PSGS. But first, it still has to be there next week.
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Stu Schulman


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Ulster Park New Yawk
Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 3:11 am     Reply with quote

Jerry,If you'd like I can go out there with you and check it out?
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Jerry Dragon


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New York, USA
Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 3:53 am     Reply with quote

Stu Schulman wrote:
Jerry,If you'd like I can go out there with you and check it out?


If it is still available I will be calling the gent this week. If he is a player he should be able to demonstrate it for me. As I stated, if it sounds good and in tune with him playing it, and I am satisfied with it, that, along with the recommendations here, should suffice. I thank you for the offer but that is quite a haul for you. It is over an hour to get to my house and then to the middle of Mass and back. Buy the way, I started designing the bell cranks and fretboards for the ZB. I have drawn them in solidworks and have programmed them. I used the GFI bell crank you gave me as an example but shortened it and made stubbier due to the room constrictions in the ZB. I have 32 blanks cut out for the bell cranks and should machine them next week. I have the material for the front rail cut to size but still have to make some decisions before I machine it. Remember, if you need any parts made just ask.
Thanx again for the offer.
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Jerry Dragon


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Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 4:38 am     Reply with quote

Erv Niehaus wrote:
Regarding the lowers, I believe they are set up for specific strings from the factory and there is not changing them.


does anyone know if this is the case?
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mtulbert


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Plano, Texas 75023
Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 4:56 am     Reply with quote

Erv is totally correct. Great sounding guitars but limited with advanced setups IMHO. No split tunings and only 1 lower per string. Hence no Franklin pedal options if you have the knee lever raise set to lower the 5th string a half tone. This may not matter to you at this stage of the game but at some point as your knowledge of the instrument grows you may want to try other tunings.

No disparity towards the guitar. Just trying to give some advice.
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Stu Schulman


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Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 4:56 am     Reply with quote

Jerry,Ross Shafer sent a hat for you to my place,hasn't gotten here yet,but as soon as it does I'll let you know.
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Jerry Dragon


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New York, USA
Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 7:11 am     Reply with quote

mtulbert wrote:
Erv is totally correct. Great sounding guitars but limited with advanced setups IMHO. No split tunings and only 1 lower per string. Hence no Franklin pedal options if you have the knee lever raise set to lower the 5th string a half tone. This may not matter to you at this stage of the game but at some point as your knowledge of the instrument grows you may want to try other tunings.

No disparity towards the guitar. Just trying to give some advice.


I will be 66 soon. I am sure that if I bought this guitar I don't have enough time left to learn all that could be learned on it. Heck, I have been playing lead 6 string standard guitar for 50 years and still have a long way to go and a lot to learn on that. Also, I am a machinist so I might be able to
modify things that cannot be modified? But thank you for the input. I need an explanation of split tunings, I hear the phrase a lot but don't know what it is?
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Jerry Dragon


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New York, USA
Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 7:20 am     Reply with quote

Stu Schulman wrote:
Jerry,Ross Shafer sent a hat for you to my place,hasn't gotten here yet,but as soon as it does I'll let you know.


Yes, let me know and I will stop over again, maybe by then I will have a guitar and you could show me an exorcise or two?
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Hal Braun


From:
Eustis, Florida, USA
Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 8:59 am     Reply with quote

mtulbert wrote:
Erv is totally correct. Great sounding guitars but limited with advanced setups IMHO. No split tunings and only 1 lower per string. Hence no Franklin pedal options if you have the knee lever raise set to lower the 5th string a half tone. This may not matter to you at this stage of the game but at some point as your knowledge of the instrument grows you may want to try other tunings.

No disparity towards the guitar. Just trying to give some advice.


Not exactly true.. while it is more difficult than a standard all pull, you can get multiple lowers on the Sam string. Here is the tuning for my Jackson 12 Blackjack tuned to a Sacred Steel tuning.. Chuck Campbell and Robert Randolf among other Sacred Steel players also play/played Jackson.

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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 11:29 am     Reply with quote

Jerry, BUY THE GUITAR and spend the next few years learning. Don't sweat the technical stuff.

If, sometime in the future, you feel it's inadequate for your needs, you can sell it and buy something else. Chances are you will never feel that way.

Jackson makes excellent instruments. I'm not familiar with this particular model, but the ones I've played have all been 1st class.
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Mike Perlowin


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Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 11:34 am     Reply with quote

Jerry Dragon wrote:
...the ...forum members who after reading this thread tried to buy the guitar out from under me by having it shipped.


NOT COOL. We're not supposed to do things like that.

Jerry, I apologize on behalf of the vast majority of us who show respect for each other and treat each other honestly.
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Jerry Dragon


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New York, USA
Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 2:14 pm     Reply with quote

Mike Perlowin wrote:
Jerry Dragon wrote:
...the ...forum members who after reading this thread tried to buy the guitar out from under me by having it shipped.


NOT COOL. We're not supposed to do things like that.

Jerry, I apologize on behalf of the vast majority of us who show respect for each other and treat each other honestly.


just another step along the way, we live and we learn.
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