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Select your preference of grain on a lacquer body.
Birdseye
42%
 42%  [ 25 ]
Curly Maple
57%
 57%  [ 34 ]
Total Votes : 59

Author Topic:  Birdseye or Curly Maple?
Cameron Parsons


From:
Angleton, Texas
Post Posted 27 Jan 2018 9:49 pm     Reply with quote

Which of these two types of grain do you prefer on a lacquer (non-mica) body? Asking for a friend ... Winking
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Jim Smith


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Valley Ranch (north Irving), TX, USA
Post Posted 27 Jan 2018 10:02 pm     Reply with quote

Birds eye looks better but "they" say that curly maple sounds better.
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Mike Perlowin


From:
Los Angeles CA
Post Posted 27 Jan 2018 11:27 pm     Reply with quote

Is this tiger stripe maple? I think thus is the most beautiful steel I've ever seen.


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Marco Schouten


From:
Assendelft, The Netherlands
Post Posted 28 Jan 2018 6:04 am     Reply with quote

Mike Perlowin wrote:
Is this tiger stripe maple? I think thus is the most beautiful steel I've ever seen.


That's a beauty for sure.
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Jack Stoner


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Post Posted 28 Jan 2018 7:13 am     Reply with quote

Don Suleky's Weenik SD-10 has the blue tiger stripe. Looks great. I wish I had a picture to post.
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Ross Shafer


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Petaluma, California
Post Posted 28 Jan 2018 7:56 am     Reply with quote

curly(flame) for me by far....quilted, oh yeah!!!
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Tony Glassman


From:
The Great Northwest
Post Posted 28 Jan 2018 8:53 am     Reply with quote

I like both equally. Each has its charms.

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Bill Ford


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Graniteville SC Aiken
Post Posted 28 Jan 2018 11:03 am     Reply with quote

Any highly figured maple with a seethrough stain color of your choice.
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post Posted 28 Jan 2018 11:20 am     Reply with quote

I have a Baritone guitar neck from Warmoth that is curly and loaded with bird's eyes.



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Larry Allen


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Post Posted 28 Jan 2018 2:45 pm     Reply with quote

Not steels but these maple Taylors sound amazing...louder and brighter than Koa, Rosewood and Walnut Taylors.. Shocked

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Tyler Hall


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Nashville, TN
Post Posted 28 Jan 2018 9:34 pm     Reply with quote

Maybe it's coincidence but some of the best sounding guitars I've ever seen were birdseye with aluminum necks. I happen to own one of them too.
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post Posted 29 Jan 2018 9:17 am     Reply with quote

If I'm not mistaken, on their lacquered guitars, Emmons used a hard rock maple for the cabinet and then put a fancy maple veneer over that on the front.
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Mike Perlowin


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Post Posted 29 Jan 2018 9:20 am     Reply with quote

I was told that hard rock maple resonated better than maple with fancier grains.
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Erv Niehaus


From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
Post Posted 29 Jan 2018 9:23 am     Reply with quote

Mike,
Yes, that's what I understand also.
And that's why Emmons did what they did. Very Happy
Erv
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Brint Hannay


From:
Maryland, USA
Post Posted 29 Jan 2018 10:51 am     Reply with quote

I wonder if Sho-Bud used hard rock maple for the black (not black stain) Super Pro? You'd think they wouldn't want to waste birdseye under black paint.
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Patrick Thornhill


From:
Austin Texas, USA
Post Posted 29 Jan 2018 12:16 pm     Reply with quote

If my understanding is correct (which it may well not be), the curly/tiger/flame figure is more common - or at least more prominent - in the species of tree sold as “soft maple” (e.g. Silver, Big Leaf) and birdseye is found in “hard maple” (e.g. Sugar).
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Tony Glassman


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Post Posted 30 Jan 2018 8:50 am     Reply with quote

I like both equally
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Bruce Derr


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Lee, New Hampshire, USA
Post Posted 30 Jan 2018 10:46 am     Reply with quote

Erv Niehaus wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, on their lacquered guitars, Emmons used a hard rock maple for the cabinet and then put a fancy maple veneer over that on the front.


Ditto for the Carter lacquer guitars. At least it's true of mine.
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Peter Leavenworth


From:
Madbury, New Hampshire, USA
Post Posted 31 Jan 2018 5:55 am     Reply with quote

I believe birdseye and curly maple are most often marketed in "hard" maple, but many species of hardwood can be curly or have birdseye quilting (sugar maple, black walnut, yellow birch, some mahoganies). Flamed maple is caused by stress points in tree trunks and limbs moving in the wind over the life of the tree, while specialists appear to be uncertain what caused birdseye. My Emmons has both birdseye and flamed grain in the veneer.
I would be willing to bet that the reason for using maple veneer over a solid maple cabinet is that is was less expensive than figured solid wood and offered flexibility in deciding which finish to use over the pre-made cabinets - wood veneer or plastic laminate. Laminate is much faster to install, as you can imagine.

http://www.bellforestproducts.com/woodworking-articles/v/birdseye-and-curly-maple-lumber/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird%27s_eye_figure
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post Posted 31 Jan 2018 8:17 am     Reply with quote

I was always led to believe that birds eye maple was caused by birds pecking the tree looking for bugs.
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Patrick Thornhill


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Austin Texas, USA
Post Posted 31 Jan 2018 1:13 pm     Reply with quote

Nah. They‘re both developmental abnormalities that most likely involve stress due to limited physiological resources (nutrients, trace minerals, etc) or parasitism.
As most non-genetic abnormalities in most living organisms do...
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Bill C. Buntin


Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 6:20 pm     Reply with quote

I'm going with HOT flamed Curly (Chalker) Maple on this one. LOL!
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Harry Dove


From:
Edmore, Michigan, USA
Post Posted 3 Feb 2018 7:25 pm     Reply with quote

I have cut a lot of trees both for firewood and for lumber. My observation has been that trees that grow out by themselves, like in a fence row or the very edge of a woods, show a lot more twisting or curling of the grain. That also makes them very hard to split for firewood. I could be wrong about birds-eye but it appears to me that trees that grow too close together have most of that. Trees grown in a tight woods only have limbs at the very top of the tree. When the trees are young they keep trying to put out new shoots all along their trunk but they soon die off due to the lack of sunlight. This leaves a little pocket which the tree fills in as it grows, but the swirl or peck is left behind. This can all happen within the same species. In addition to that, there are several different varieties of hard maple. Maple lumber is so light colored that it is hard to tell what it is going to look like until you put something on it to bring out the grain.
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Jim Sliff


From:
Lawndale California, USA
Post Posted 5 Feb 2018 7:14 pm     Reply with quote

Quote:
I was always led to believe that birds eye maple was caused by birds pecking the tree looking for bugs.


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FWIW - after you add an aluminum neck to the tonal equation the type of maple will be essentially moot.
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Rick Barnhart


From:
Arizona, USA
Post Posted 9 Feb 2018 6:33 am     Reply with quote

Can you guess which way I voted?

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