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Mark Hepler


From:
Virginia, USA
Post Posted 25 Jan 2018 8:00 am     Reply with quote

Let’s re-release Buddy’s Emmons Guitar, Inc. (Black Album) digitally before the masters disappear.

Maybe a forum member knows a music business person who will make it happen . . . or the Steel Guitar Hall of Fame can get behind it?

Any interest?

Also, Picks The Famous Sho-Bud Guitars would be a good artifact to salvage before the tapes wind up in a dumpster.
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scott murray


From:
Asheville, NC
Post Posted 25 Jan 2018 11:11 am     Reply with quote

wasn't it released on CD at some point?

every household in the world should have a copy.
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Aaron Johnson


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Washington, USA
Post Posted 25 Jan 2018 11:16 am     Reply with quote

I would like a copy, digital or LP.
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Jim Cohen


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Philadelphia, PA
Post Posted 25 Jan 2018 11:23 am     Reply with quote

It was already re-released on CD. Not sure where you can get copies but it definitely is out there in digital format.

As for the SG Hall of Fame getting behind a project, well, you must not get out much... They are defunct.
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Jack Hanson


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Post Posted 25 Jan 2018 11:41 am     Reply with quote

Who retains ownership? Presumably the Lashley's? If so, don't hold your breath.
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Mark Hepler


From:
Virginia, USA
Post Posted 25 Jan 2018 2:03 pm     Rip it . . . Reply with quote

I've never seen it sold on CD anywhere, just vinyl, but a CD edition shows up on Discogs . . . so . . . ?

If it will never be released again, I wish someone would rip the CD and post it for guys who don't own it, and for posterity.
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b0b


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Cloverdale, Northern California
Post Posted 25 Jan 2018 3:12 pm     Reply with quote

the Emmons company sold CDs of it for a while. They even wholesaled them out, and I had them in The Forum's online store. Then they stopped responding to my purchase orders and they were all gone. Sad

It's one of the best albums ever, in my opinion. It was like the Sgt Peppers of steel guitar music.
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Jack Strayhorn


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Winston-Salem, NC
Post Posted 25 Jan 2018 7:38 pm     Reply with quote

Ron Lashley should still own the publishing rights and masters. Ron Sr had Steve Palusek remaster in the 90's and had CD's produced. Around 05' I attempted to negotiate a buyout which was not going to include publishing. Steve's master did not have the extreme panning of the original.
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Jonathan Shacklock


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London, UK
Post Posted 26 Jan 2018 2:05 am     Reply with quote

Sundazed records do some steel guitar reissues, including Pete Drake, Mooney, Leon Mcauliffe and Speedy West. Until recently they had Steel Guitar Jazz by Buddy/Buddie. They might be interested if it was available.
https://sundazed.com/store/Search.aspx?SearchTerms=steel%20guitar
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Marco Schouten


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Assendelft, The Netherlands
Post Posted 26 Jan 2018 5:15 am     Reply with quote

I've digitized all my vinyl albums, that way they never wear out.
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Mark Hepler


From:
Virginia, USA
Post Posted 26 Jan 2018 6:07 am     16,000 Emmons Fans Can't Be Wrong Reply with quote

It's heartening to see so much interest in the reissue idea.

It sounds like Jack already tried to get rights:

Jack, Do you think you could contact them again? Maybe the Forum could retail it? (I'm good at spending other people's money and time-ha)

I'm pretty sure 16,000 forum members would snag one . . . I'd like to own it.
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b0b


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Post Posted 26 Jan 2018 8:37 am     Reply with quote

Marco Schouten wrote:
I've digitized all my vinyl albums, that way they never wear out.

True, but the devices that play digital music go obsolete every few years. Oh Well
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Marco Schouten


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Post Posted 26 Jan 2018 11:51 am     Reply with quote

b0b wrote:
Marco Schouten wrote:
I've digitized all my vinyl albums, that way they never wear out.

True, but the devices that play digital music go obsolete every few years. Oh Well


Whoa! If it ever happens, I still have a turntable and the original black album.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post Posted 26 Jan 2018 12:53 pm     Reply with quote

I don't think cd players will ever disappear. Too many cds still floating around. They may be harder to find, same as turntables did.
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Al Udeen


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Post Posted 26 Jan 2018 7:52 pm     Black Album for sale Reply with quote

I have a mint Emmons Black Album, It still has the clear plastic covering on the jacket it may have been played once or not. I will take offers to any prospects, Thanks
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Bill C. Buntin


Post Posted 27 Jan 2018 6:23 am     Reply with quote

Al I'm interested in the vinyl.

I had a CD, that has disappeared, for whatever reason, but I'm almost sure I got the CD from Scotty. Several years ago I talked with Scotty about this, there seemed to be a lot of interest at the time. It would be great if it could be offered into the mass digital market.

Same for Curly's work, Jimmy Day, Tom Morrell and a host of others.

If anyone has CDs, let me know too, please.

~Bill~
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Bill C. Buntin


Post Posted 27 Jan 2018 6:24 am     Emmons Black LP Reply with quote

Al, I sent you a PM.

~Bill~
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Bill Erchul


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Post Posted 27 Jan 2018 11:46 am     Reply with quote

I talked to Ron and Rebecca 10+ years ago about a re-release when they had about 20 CDs left. I remember steering them toward CD Baby and iTunes to explore download options but they felt the revenue wouldn't be enough. Having received "tens of dollars" annually myself from CD Baby/iTunes, I really couldn't blame them.
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC..
Post Posted 27 Jan 2018 12:52 pm     Reply with quote

Bill Erchul wrote:
I talked to Ron and Rebecca 10+ years ago about a re-release when they had about 20 CDs left. I remember steering them toward CD Baby and iTunes to explore download options but they felt the revenue wouldn't be enough. Having received "tens of dollars" annually myself from CD Baby/iTunes, I really couldn't blame them.




Thats nonsense, especially if they own all the publishing rights. They could assign it over to someone and authorize only digital downloads. Literally no investment. NO CD's , no plastic cases, no printing.

CDBABY, ITUNES etc , millions of artists have tracks available for download at a very minimal fee , in some cases there is no fee, just a fee is collected when tracks are sold. Like me ! Earning tens of dollars or even a few hundred dollars sure beats earning ZERO dollars.

These days probably every artist can't wait to finish a project and get it up on the net for download. Everyday is an opportunity to earn a few dollars and you don't even have to get out of bed or leave the house.
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Dale Rottacker


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Post Posted 27 Jan 2018 3:09 pm     Reply with quote

Tony Prior wrote:
Bill Erchul wrote:
I talked to Ron and Rebecca 10+ years ago about a re-release when they had about 20 CDs left. I remember steering them toward CD Baby and iTunes to explore download options but they felt the revenue wouldn't be enough. Having received "tens of dollars" annually myself from CD Baby/iTunes, I really couldn't blame them.




Thats nonsense, especially if they own all the publishing rights. They could assign it over to someone and authorize only digital downloads. Literally no investment. NO CD's , no plastic cases, no printing.

CDBABY, ITUNES etc , millions of artists have tracks available for download at a very minimal fee , in some cases there is no fee, just a fee is collected when tracks are sold. Like me ! Earning tens of dollars or even a few hundred dollars sure beats earning ZERO dollars.

These days probably every artist can't wait to finish a project and get it up on the net for download. Everyday is an opportunity to earn a few dollars and you don’t even have to get out of bed or leave the house.

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Roger Rettig


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Post Posted 27 Jan 2018 5:45 pm     Reply with quote

Back in the Old Country I had this on vinyl. I've long since lost track of that, though.

My memory is hazy but I'm pretty sure I was given a complimentary CD by Jim Aycoth at Emmons with one or other of the two new Emmons LeGrandes I bought from the factory (along with a tee-shirt or two Smile ). Some of my happiest steel guitar memories have been my dealings with Jim and Joanne Aycoth.

I'm happy to say I still have the CD and I play it often.
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Jerry Jones


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Nashville, Tenn.
Post Posted 27 Jan 2018 5:55 pm     Reply with quote

There seems to be some kind of MP3 download here ... Don't know didn't try

http://www.soundsbox.com/music/artist/buddy-emmons
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC..
Post Posted 28 Jan 2018 1:56 am     Reply with quote

Jerry Jones wrote:
There seems to be some kind of MP3 download here ... Don't know didn't try

http://www.soundsbox.com/music/artist/buddy-emmons


I registered with this outlet but did not give them any money. Indeed you can get tracks for as little as 17 cents but some of the reviews state that there is CC fraud associated. It's either a Russian or Chinese outlet, or something like that.

I still just think that Jr should register the Black album with I tunes or CD baby at 99 cents a track. It costs nothing to do it.

"Crumbs" is what birds eat to stay alive ! Very Happy
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Bill Erchul


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Post Posted 28 Jan 2018 1:56 pm     Reply with quote

Hey Tony, you could be right about the sales potential of downloads when publishing rights are owned. All I know is that at the time, the Lashleys didn't see a favorable cost/benefit ratio and didn't have a legal eagle to sort the issues out for them. If they had had the $ back then, I'm sure they would have been happy to simply burn more CDs.
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b0b


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Cloverdale, Northern California
Post Posted 28 Jan 2018 3:57 pm     Reply with quote

It costs very little to burn CDs these days. Check out www.kunaki.com. No minimum order.
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