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Topic: Thinking E13th for 10 string |
Andy DePaule
From: Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 1 Jan 2018 4:03 pm
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Switching the F# & G# is what I had on my very first Sho Bud in 1975.
I also set it up with the C# between the B & E.
It was an S-10 with 6&1 and I had no idea what to do with the extra pedals.
So I had the very tuning we are speaking of here but with the F# & G# switched.
Didn't have any idea it was a E13th because I was so new to steel then.
Had the 3 E9 pedals plus some 6th kind of changes that I can't remember now.
Think I lowered the E's on the one knee.
Was kind of weird and I was not much of a picker then. Still not so hot, but know my limits.
Soon after that, I got the Crossover and converted it to a none crossover with 7&4 and started to use a standard E9th but with C# on the 2nd and 9th raised by a knee.
Still use that tuning today. _________________ Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project. |
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Andy DePaule
From: Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 1 Jan 2018 4:25 pm Nailed it
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Doug Beaumier wrote: |
"I first heard it on Sneaky Pete's album and I loved his rendition. That's the vibe I was going for in my video of the song |
I'd say you nailed it Doug. One of my favorite youtube videos. Wanna sell that old amplifier?
I also heard it first on Sneeky Petes album years ago and liked it so much then. _________________ Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project. |
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Ken Campbell
From: Ferndale, Montana
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Posted 1 Jan 2018 4:42 pm
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Andy,
It's de-tensioned for shipping but it's just a normal set of PSG string so it can be either.
Regards, |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Andy DePaule
From: Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 1 Jan 2018 7:20 pm That is a keeper for sure...
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Hi Doug,
That is a keeper for sure... Keeping my eyes open for a good old tube amp.
For now I have a great little Danelectro with an 8" speaker I think. Can get quite loud without breaking up.
The lap steel sounds wonderful through it and it was only $60 off craigslist.
Looks like this one;
Funny thing is it sounds better for the lap steel than my Peavey Nashville 112.
Not very good for the Pedal Steel though... _________________ Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project. |
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James Hartman
From: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 2 Jan 2018 12:20 pm Re: Sleepy Lagoon
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Andy DePaule wrote: |
Hi James,
Just curious, what is the Alkire tuning for those? I was not aware they had one.
There is a lot to be said for using just one tuning, but I've ordered a triple neck from Todd that should be ready in March when I return to the US for a couple of weeks.
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I believe someone else already responded to the Alkire tuning question. I'd worked out a few tunes and was starting to get a bit comfortable with it but decided I needed to set it aside for a while. I think it has interesting possibilities, but whether it's where I might most profitably invest the time remains a question.
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I find C6th odd because of the E stuff at the 4th fret and also I prefer the 5th tone on the top so been playing A6th. Also better because most anything I learn in A6th can be transferred to the E9th steel pedals down. I should put some time and effort into C6th for my Promat D-10.
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My 8-string C6 has the 5th on top - fairly common, I think (A, C, E, G, A, C, E, G low to high). |
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Andy DePaule
From: Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 2 Jan 2018 4:00 pm Re: Sleepy Lagoon
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James Hartman wrote: |
My 8-string C6 has the 5th on top - fairly common, I think (A, C, E, G, A, C, E, G low to high). |
Hi James,
Thanks for your suggestion. Yes I knew about this alternate C6th used by a lot of steelers.
For now I'd still have the issue of finding the positions a little odd, but yes I must do some serious woodshedding on that in the future. Of corse the 10 string C6th has that on the top 8 strings unless a person has stuck a D on top. My Promat has the G there.
That woodshedding will help when I get my D-10 back.
For now I will stick to the A6 for the reasons I mentioned and also I really like the timbre of the A6th a little better.
Had even thought of tuning my D-10 back neck down 3 half steps... Not sure if anyone else has ever done that, but I'm sure it's been done by someone sometime.
Best wishes,
Andy _________________ Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project. |
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Andy DePaule
From: Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 2 Jan 2018 4:12 pm Alkire E-Harp, 10 string for sale
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While on this subject have others noticed there is an Alkire E-Harp, 10 string offered at a reasonable price on this page.
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=325459
Looks to be in real nice shape and two pickups also.
_________________ Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project. |
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Andy DePaule
From: Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 2 Jan 2018 5:08 pm One to die for....
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Elbern H. "Eddie" Alkire
1940, Elbern H. "Eddie" Alkire with 10-string prototype of his "Eharp" electric Hawaiian guitar produced by the Rickenbacker Guitar Company.
Bet this baby had the tone! _________________ Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project. |
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