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Jimmie Hudson

 

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North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 27 Dec 2017 8:31 am    
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Anyone have a drawing of the old Sho Bud push pull changer system and operation diagram.
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Abe Levy


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California, USA
Post  Posted 27 Dec 2017 9:45 am    
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Sho bud push pull? Never heard of it. You mean Emmons push pull? Or sho bud pull release? Sho bud all pull?
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Ross Shafer


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Petaluma, California
Post  Posted 27 Dec 2017 9:49 am    
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Google Patents will almost certainly have the patent drawings for your perusal. They're not dimensioned, but there's still a lot of info to be had by sleuthing them.
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Jimmie Hudson

 

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North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 27 Dec 2017 11:41 am     emmons
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Abe Levy wrote:
Sho bud push pull? Never heard of it. You mean Emmons push pull? Or sho bud pull release? Sho bud all pull?
It is the Emmons but was going to be the Sho Bud but Shot would not make the change that Buddy wanted to do. in 1961
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Ian Worley


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Sacramento, CA
Post  Posted 27 Dec 2017 12:42 pm    
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https://patents.google.com/patent/US7465860B2.

This system is similar to what BMI has done, with two separate changers, as opposed to the nested PP changer system that Buddy and Ron Lashley devised (https://patents.google.com/patent/US3447413A).

If you type "David H Jackson" in the "inventor" field you'll get a whole bunch of other stuff. A lot of the patents weren't filed until fairly recently. I've spent hours before digging through psg history via the patents. It's pretty fascinating. Check out the citation links at the bottom, the various patent numbers cited in each filing. There are countless others examples of "prior art", just about everything that's been tried or imagined, some very obscure. Endless rabbit holes...



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Jimmie Hudson

 

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North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 27 Dec 2017 5:19 pm     emmons
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Ian Worley wrote:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7465860B2.

This system is similar to what BMI has done, with two separate changers, as opposed to the nested PP changer system that Buddy and Ron Lashley devised (https://patents.google.com/patent/US3447413A).

If you type "David H Jackson" in the "inventor" field you'll get a whole bunch of other stuff. A lot of the patents weren't filed until fairly recently. I've spent hours before digging through psg history via the patents. It's pretty fascinating. Check out the citation links at the bottom, the various patent numbers cited in each filing. There are countless others examples of "prior art", just about everything that's been tried or imagined, some very obscure. Endless rabbit holes...



Thanks for the drawings
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robert kramer

 

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Nashville TN
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 5:29 am    
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Great post. If you click on Ronald Lashley you can see the patents for split tuning and the counterforce. Thanks for posting.
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Ron Funk

 

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Ballwin, Missouri
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 4:32 pm    
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What I also find fascinating is the technical write-up that accompanied the drawings to describe each specific component - and its function.
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robert kramer

 

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Nashville TN
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2017 5:31 pm    
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I wonder if Lashley - a physics teacher - or a lawyer wrote it. Or combination of both.
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Jon Zimmerman

 

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California, USA
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2017 10:59 am     Early patent efforts
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Pictures worth a thousand words..EACH. Just to describe a "string puller"..how complex can it get? Fascinating 'stuff' tho.
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