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Topic: Boo-Wha pedal vs Jimi Hendrix chord - S12U: |
Pete Burak
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 6:52 am |
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Here's a quick Boo-Wha pedal relationship for Steel playing guitar players...
If you put a guitar around your neck and sit at your S12U, go to fret-8 with the Boo-Wha pedal pressed.
Play the "Jimi Hendrix Chord" on guitar (Purple Haze, Foxy Lady).
String-12 matches string-6 on guitar (open low-E).
String-10 matches string-5 on guitar
String-9 matches string-4 on guitar.
String-7 matches string-3 on guitar.
String-5 matches string-2 on guitar.
String-6 matches string-1 on guitar (open high-e)
So I remember when I first learned the Jimi Hendrix chord in high school, and there are lots of songs that use that type of chord in various keys, so it is a good thing to know about the Boo-Wha.
Also, That B-to-C on string 9 is the same as the lowest string on Jerry Byrds 7-string C6/A7 Lap Steels.
On S12U, for example...
Play a G6th at fret-8 on strings 9-5.
Go back two frets with Boo-Wha and play a D7 on strings 10-6.
That is another nice position to go to for Western Swing, Hawiaan, etc...
Last edited by Pete Burak on 24 Dec 2017 11:37 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Lane Gray
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 8:14 am
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Also called the "Hold It chord."
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Pete Burak
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Portland, OR USA
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 9:46 am
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Buddy playing Hold It:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_qZwWwGgB0
I would like to see the list of songs that Buddy Emmons uses this chord on! I presume he was the one to add this pedal as a Standard change.
Another song...
From Wikipedia:
"The chord is heard quietly at the end of the bridge in Santo and Johnny's 1959 instrumental hit "Sleep Walk"."
Last edited by Pete Burak on 24 Dec 2017 9:57 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 9:54 am
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That’s all you have to do on a Uni? It takes an act of Congress on E9.
Been a while since I’ve heard it called “the Hendrix chordâ€, but that is what the kids I jammed with called it back in the 70’s. |
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b0b
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 9:55 am
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On a fully configured C6th, there's also a higher pitched voicing of that chord. It's F7#9 on the open strings. Use pedal 6 and the lever that lowers your 4th string A to Ab. Skip the 5th string.
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string pedal chord
4 L #9
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6 P6 b7
7 5
8 3
9 root |
Not sure how you get it on a U-12, but it's probably there with the root on the 11th string (E).
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Tony Glassman
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 9:59 am
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
| Also called the "Hold It chord." |
Yep.....Bill Doggett predates Jimi. |
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Pete Burak
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Portland, OR USA
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 10:11 am
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fwiw, I call it the Buddy Emmons chord  |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 10:55 am
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| Tony Glassman wrote: |
| Lane Gray wrote: |
| Also called the "Hold It chord." |
Yep.....Bill Doggett predates Jimi. |
And also Stevie Ray. It annoyed me when Luna called it Scuttle Buttin
Luna is, however, kinda badass https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-T0eBr31w
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Earnest Bovine
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 11:03 am Re: Boo-Wha pedal vs Jimi Hendrix chord - S12U:
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| Pete Burak wrote: |
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Is that really how your average guitar gorilla plays E7#9? It seems unnecessarily complex for a drug-addled rocknroll moron. After all, it requires using 4 fingers on the left hand, at the same time. I had always thought he would use only 2 fingers for E7+9, playing G# at fret 11 and DGB at fret 12 (and open string low E) but apparently that is not so. |
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Earnest Bovine
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 11:03 am
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| Fred Treece wrote: |
It takes an act of Congress on E9.
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On my E9 I can play it (G# D G, without the low E) at fret 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 10. |
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Jay Jessup
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Charlottesville, VA, USA
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 11:12 am
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| Yes actually it's quite easy to get a nice #9 on the E9 neck. From any pedals down position move back one fret and hit strings 9,6 and 5 with the A pedal engaged--simple!! |
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Lane Gray
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 11:14 am
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Lowered Es, B pedal, 2 lowered to D.
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 11:15 am Re: Boo-Wha pedal vs Jimi Hendrix chord - S12U:
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I'm a little confused.
| Pete Burak wrote: |
| go to fret-9 |
That would be right for Bb uni. Then later he mentions fret 8 for G6, which would be right for B6. Festive clarification, please?
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Pete Burak
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Portland, OR USA
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 11:37 am
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Woops-ee!
I play B6/E9 Universal, so I meant it to be for that.
Edit has been done.
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 11:37 am
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At the nut with the boo-wah pedal on a "standard" E9/B6 U-12, the root on the 12th string is G# (lowered from B). That puts E7#9 at the 8th fret.
On C6th, that's the 10th string C lowered to A. That puts E7#9 at the 7th fret.
On a Bb6th Uni, the boo-wah E7#9 is at the 9th fret.
On my D6th, it's at the 5th fret. 
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Pete Burak
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Portland, OR USA
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 12:19 pm Re: Boo-Wha pedal vs Jimi Hendrix chord - S12U:
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| Earnest Bovine wrote: |
| Pete Burak wrote: |
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Is that really how your average guitar gorilla plays E7#9? It seems unnecessarily complex for a drug-addled rocknroll moron. After all, it requires using 4 fingers on the left hand, at the same time. I had always thought he would use only 2 fingers for E7+9, playing G# at fret 11 and DGB at fret 12 (and open string low E) but apparently that is not so. |
If you type "Jimi Hendrix Chord" into google, there are alot of articles on the subject.
That's where these pic's are from.
Again... For guitar playing S12U Steelers who are wondering what the Boo-Wha pedal does...
If you put a guitar around your neck and sit at your S12U, go to fret-8 with the Boo-Wha pedal pressed.
Play the "Jimi Hendrix Chord" on guitar (Purple Haze, Foxy Lady).
String-12 matches string-6 on guitar (open low-E).
String-10 matches string-5 on guitar
String-9 matches string-4 on guitar.
String-7 matches string-3 on guitar.
String-5 matches string-2 on guitar.
String-6 matches string-1 on guitar (open high-e)
Maybe a D10 player can start a new thread with a similar string comparison for D10, maybe??? |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 1:39 pm Re: Boo-Wha pedal vs Jimi Hendrix chord - S12U:
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Again... For guitar playing S12U Steelers who are wondering what the Boo-Wha pedal does...
If you put a guitar around your neck and sit at your S12U, go to fret-8 with the Boo-Wha pedal pressed.
Play the "Jimi Hendrix Chord" on guitar (Purple Haze, Foxy Lady).
String-12 matches string-6 on guitar (open low-E).
String-10 matches string-5 on guitar
String-9 matches string-4 on guitar.
String-7 matches string-3 on guitar.
String-5 matches string-2 on guitar.
String-6 matches string-1 on guitar (open high-e)
Maybe a D10 player can start a new thread with a similar string comparison for D10, maybe??? |
On C6th, it's pedal 8. Go to fret 7 and it's strings 10, 8, 7, 5, 3, and string 4 (or string 2 open) for the open high-E guitar string.
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colin mcintosh
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Australia
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 2:49 pm
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It's also used in the intro to All The Things You Are.
Written in 1939 by Jerome Kern. |
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 3:15 pm
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Would that be Kern himself or one of innumerable subsequent arrangers?
People have been adding altered notes to dominant sevenths for a long time. What's different about numbers like Hold It is the use of the 7#9 as a tonic with its unresolved tension between the 3rd and the sharp ninth which we are actually hearing as a "blue" flat tenth, so the chord is major and minor at the same time.
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colin mcintosh
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 3:17 pm
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| Could be. Parker used it in his version 1944. |
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Ian Rae
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 3:25 pm
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Out of interest, I shall keep my eyes and ears open for any earlier examples.
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 6:29 pm
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Earnest and Jay:
Yes, the 3-note version of that chord is child’s play and any drug addicted steel guitar moron could play it. 
Lane’s version is one of the full 4 note voicings on E9. The other is 8-7-5-4, with 8 lowered, 7 raised, and the C pedal on 5 & 4. Like I said, act of congress. |
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Lane Gray
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 7:13 pm
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| Ian Rae wrote: |
| the sharp ninth which we are actually hearing as a "blue" flat tenth, so the chord is major and minor at the same time. |
See also the original recording of Foggy Mountain Breakdown. The melody goes to Em, but Lester played E Major for a decade or more. Given that he knew both chords, I cannot imagine it was an error.
I believe he only started playing the minor after the rest of the world adopted the alternate
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Chris Templeton
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The Green Mountain State
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 7:56 pm
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I've always thought of the "Booh" as starting the decent from the C-A on pedal 8 on the C6th 10th string, and the "Wah", the #9 chord resolve. It is unique to the pedal steel and causes a "what was that?" reaction. Kind of gimmicky but I love it.
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 8:29 pm
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| If you were one of the zillion 15 year old kids just learning guitar in 1970, chances were good that Jimi was a big reason you started playing, and chances were even better you had no idea who Jerome Kern was. |
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