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Topic: Ray Price, Nightlife, Knee Levers? |
Drew Howard
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Posted 21 Dec 2017 10:47 am |
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Can anyone shed light on whether Buddy used knees on the Sho-Bud he cut this record with? Or Jimmy Day on the two tracks he cut?
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robert kramer
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Posted 21 Dec 2017 3:54 pm
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That's a great question. I just listened through the Price recording and I think it can be played without knee levers - except possibly @ 3:51 the passing chord going into the 4 might be pedal 6 with the 3rd string lowered a half. I'm not at a guitar so there might be another way to play it without a knee lever (or I may not know what I'm talking about!) It was a Fingertip so it could very possibly have been without knee levers. I sure would like to know the answer, too.
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Bob Moore
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Posted 21 Dec 2017 4:22 pm
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| The book I got with Buddy's lesson had I think only foot pedals. Bob M |
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Lane Gray
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Posted 23 Dec 2017 2:26 am
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No knees.
I'm hundreds of miles from my guitar, but I THINK it's all pedals 6 and 7 (possibly a P5, but I wouldn't swear to it).
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Tony Prior
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Charlotte NC
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Posted 23 Dec 2017 4:33 am
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It depends on if we are using the exact same chord voicings. The C6th tuning allows us to sub chords in multiple locations where they all SOUND the same.
There are various tabs of the intro that use only the 6 and 7 peds, but we can alter that easily and no one would be the wiser !
ok, well maybe Buddy...
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Dick Sexton
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Greenville, Ohio
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Gary Walker
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Morro Bay, CA
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Posted 24 Dec 2017 4:39 pm
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| April 1962, Ray Price was in Fresno CA and they introduced "Night Life" and there were no knee levers on Buddy's Sho-Bud. I was so shaken by what I had just heard and seen. Johnny Cash and the Tennessee Two, was the main attraction that followed. I left without Cash as I didn't want to cover up what I just heard from this land mark recording that is about the most incredible thing I have heard even to this day. |
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Kevin Fix
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Michigan, USA
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Posted 25 Dec 2017 8:59 pm Night Life
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| I use pedals 5,6,7, and 8 with no knees. Pedal number 8 makes that neat string number 10 drop. My favorite song on C6th. |
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 25 Dec 2017 9:11 pm
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| It was a Fingertip so it could very possibly have been without knee levers |
Robert, Was it not a Sho~Bud permanent? I'm asking. Not saying it wasn't a finger tip. The LP. was released in 63. Didn't know Sho~Bud was offering the finger tip that early.
I just listened to the entire Nightlife LP for the first time. Thanks to youtube. I didn't hear Buddy lower the C6th 3rd string on the entire LP. What I do believe is that he had what many refer to as the chromatic strings. The High F# and D# on the bottom side of the E9 tuning at the time of that recording. I need to listen again. But I don't remember him raising the low B to C#, nor did I hear him lower either E to Eb. However, I need to listen again before I bet the farm on it.
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robert kramer
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Posted 26 Dec 2017 10:35 am
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Bobby Boggs - You are correct. "Night Life" is a Permanent. I spoke too soon. "You Took Her Off My Hands" was cut on a Permanent (with "chromatic strings") September 26, 1962. "Night Life" was cut February 22, 1963. The Sho-Bud Field guide states the Fingertip went into production "around 1963."
Also (as everybody has concluded) - "Night Life" can be played without knee levers. This purportedly the "Night Life" Sho-Bud. The RKL must have been added later as Gary Walker saw Buddy and the guitar April 1962 without knee levers.
(I'm just ranting on because this is the song that got me playing steel as the bridge between R&B & Country) |
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2017 5:01 pm
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Coop told me my F-tip was a first iteration, and he said 1963
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