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Stefan Robertson


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Post Posted 19 Dec 2017 11:20 am     Reply with quote

Hey guys

I was wondering how many videos do you guys have or know of that have Emmons performing?

I absolutely love his phrasing and taste but check out his restraint to serve the song intentionally instead of just blazing through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGb9XLFY6C4

Man the first song with Hal Rug he serves the songs instead of overshadowing him. When you compare it to the videos where he lets loose we all know he can shred the pants off of anyone, except Jernigan but plays soooo tastefully. WOW WOW WOW.

I also love his mellow tone choice that is only pedal steel bright and shiny when needed. What a legend.
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Tony Prior


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Post Posted 19 Dec 2017 1:33 pm     Reply with quote

thx for sharing this, I hadn't viewed it for several years, what a memory.
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Post Posted 19 Dec 2017 2:44 pm     Reply with quote

Watching this video shows how much difference Emmons has than others, When Hal was using the same licks around the 35min mark, Emmons licks Mind you, Emmons decided to play less and then showed him how to play that same lick at speed at the end super clean and effortlessly. LOL.

Must be weird hearing someone cover your version with similar licks and voicings talk about thinking on his feet and switching it up.
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Post Posted 20 Dec 2017 1:15 am     Reply with quote

By the way anyone knows what the setlist is for this performance?

I know a few of the songs but didn't know the names of all of them.
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Bob Knight


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Post Posted 20 Dec 2017 1:31 am     Ntsga Reply with quote

I was at this show! Smile Cool
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Tony Prior


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Post Posted 20 Dec 2017 2:22 am     Reply with quote

Stefan Robertson wrote:
Watching this video shows how much difference Emmons has than others, When Hal was using the same licks around the 35min mark, Emmons licks Mind you, Emmons decided to play less and then showed him how to play that same lick at speed at the end super clean and effortlessly. LOL.

Must be weird hearing someone cover your version with similar licks and voicings talk about thinking on his feet and switching it up.


I wouldn't be so quick to come to that conclusion. These players, Hal, Curly, Buddy, Jimmy, Maurice, etc...all came from the same place, C6th and open tunings with no pedals. Yes, they can sound similar but what sets them apart is emotion and style. I recall seeing Maurice at St Louis, in the Jazz room playing Jazz standards on his 8 string Super Slide. I'm still impressed years later. You could have closed your eyes and heard similar phrasing to Buddy and others, as they each are playing out of similar scale modes, but perhaps with different phrasing. Thats why Buddy was in my mind perhaps the leader of the pack, his choice of notes and emotional phrasing. To me he was a horn player on a Steel guitar. Buddy was a trend setter, he went to the next step, always. If he was a builder he would not have settled for a 2000 Sq ft home on 1/3 acre, , he would have figured out how to build a Castle on the same lot !

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Stefan Robertson


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Post Posted 20 Dec 2017 2:27 am     Reply with quote

LOL. True.

The phrasing is similar but I find Buddy uses not only the licks(pockets) but arpeggios and then switches back and forth between higher arpeggios and lower arpeggios that others couldn't keep up with when outlining changes.

Interesting though that he never broke through the Jazz world. Such an awesome talent. Maybe they weren't ready to accept the steel in a jazz context and still aren't.
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Tony Prior


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Post Posted 20 Dec 2017 5:11 am     Reply with quote

Stefan Robertson wrote:

Interesting though that he never broke through the Jazz world. Such an awesome talent. Maybe they weren't ready to accept the steel in a jazz context and still aren't.


There are countless great Jazz players on multiple Instruments that we will never hear of by name, zero recognition. It's a very small community in the scheme of things and there is very little room in the popular retail market. No different than todays Country music market.

Buddy made his mark, he really didn't need the Jazz community to accept him , although I would argue that those top tier players who knew him,or knew of him, had great respect for him. Buddy was a pioneer, not many can claim that status. He dropped the plow and made a path for others to follow.

Think of all the great players in any genre which nobody has ever heard of . Buddy made the rounds, I am convinced he did exactly as he desired ! Very Happy
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Post Posted 20 Dec 2017 8:47 am     Reply with quote

I think Tony expressed it well. I'd amend his comments, though, and say that Buddy was like a horn-section that played steel.

But the jazz we hear from steel guitarists is often (stylistically-speaking) borrowed from bygone age. I'm not sure how relevant the jazz world of today would find it.
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Post Posted 20 Dec 2017 9:50 am     Reply with quote

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But the jazz we hear from steel guitarists is often (stylistically-speaking) borrowed from bygone age. I'm not sure how relevant the jazz world of today would find it.

Well said, Roger. Smile
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Jay Jessup


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Post Posted 20 Dec 2017 10:13 am     Reply with quote

I was killing a little time the other night on Ernie's BE and page reading the section where he is addressing the process of creating the P/P guitar and Buddy said that was the accomplishment in his life he was most proud of!! Given all the great music and musical trends he's been a part of that statement took me by surprise.
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Tim Russell


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Post Posted 20 Dec 2017 12:03 pm     Reply with quote

Awesome stuff! However, I really "feel" for Buddy; I had to google "Bell Cove..." and then it was all too clear why he was so uncomfortable. Phoenix, AZ.

That heat would be impossible for me to perform in, yet they all pulled it off like the pros they are!
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Post Posted 20 Dec 2017 12:39 pm     Reply with quote

Roger Rettig wrote:

But the jazz we hear from steel guitarists is often (stylistically-speaking) borrowed from bygone age. I'm not sure how relevant the jazz world of today would find it.


"Jazz" on steel guitar still mostly tries to copy what Buddy Emmons was doing in 1963. And as the Down Beat review pointed out, that style was already old (".. in the Charlie Christian tradition". Christian died in 1942.)
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Post Posted 20 Dec 2017 1:15 pm     Reply with quote

I stopped short of putting the word jazz in apostrophes. Earnest took it to the next level.

It's not a world I regularly inhabit so my opinion is open to question but my instincts tell me I'm right.
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Fred Rushing


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Post Posted 20 Dec 2017 6:18 pm     Buddy Reply with quote

I am way out of my safe zone here but I will say this for a fact.
When Buddy improvised, on any neck, what he was saying ALWAYS spoke to me and seem to make sense.
There are MANY truly great steel players who can improvise til the sun comes up. However, they never spoke to me like the great Buddy Emmons.

I miss him every day.
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Stefan Robertson


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Post Posted 21 Dec 2017 1:32 am     Reply with quote

Back to the other question?

Does anyone know the songs played in the setlist by name.
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Tony Prior


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Post Posted 21 Dec 2017 2:22 am     Reply with quote

Tim Russell wrote:
Awesome stuff! However, I really "feel" for Buddy; I had to google "Bell Cove..." and then it was all too clear why he was so uncomfortable. Phoenix, AZ.


It also appears to me that Buddy was wearing some sort of polyester/nylon kinda shirt which would have made life really miserable in a "warm" environment. Notice the other players are not having the same "extreme" issue.

yet..he was still spot on Very Happy
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Jeff Harbour


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Post Posted 21 Dec 2017 5:52 am     Reply with quote

Stefan Robertson wrote:
Back to the other question?

Does anyone know the songs played in the setlist by name.


1. Freddie the Freeloader
2. Midnight in Old Amarillo
3. Maggie
4. Blue Jade
5. Relaxin'
6. Take Me As I Am
7. Wills Point
8. Home In San Antone
9. Nameless Shuffle
10. Killer Joe
11. Back Home in Indiana
12. Watch What Happens
13. A Way To Survive
14. Billie's Bounce

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Stefan Robertson


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Post Posted 21 Dec 2017 5:58 am     Reply with quote

Huge Thanks Jeff
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Brint Hannay


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Post Posted 21 Dec 2017 8:30 am     Reply with quote

Relaxin' is the first tune in the video.
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Jeff Harbour


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Post Posted 21 Dec 2017 9:03 am     Reply with quote

Haven't seen the YouTube link. The list is correct per the DVD though...
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Jack Stanton


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Post Posted 21 Dec 2017 10:43 am     Reply with quote

I thought the concert was at Bell Cove, Hendersonville, Tn.... Was it in Arizona?
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scott murray


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Post Posted 21 Dec 2017 11:08 am     Reply with quote

it was TN although Buddy is definitely covered in perspiration.

as I recall, it was Buddy's first public performance in some time and he has commented that playing to a room of steel players was more nerve-wracking than playing to an arena of non-steel players.

and some performers just sweat a lot. Thelonious Monk is usually dripping in sweat in just about every film I've seen of him, for example.
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Post Posted 21 Dec 2017 12:06 pm     Reply with quote

That's why Buddy and Thelonius wearing a hat made sense. Stopped that sweat from getting on your face.
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Fish


Post Posted 22 Dec 2017 5:55 am     Reply with quote

I was there that night. Buddy wasn't perspiring from nervousness, although he was probably wound up a little bit with so many steel players in the room. The AC was broken at the Bell Cove. I bet it was 95 degrees in that room. With high humidity. It was unbearable.

Nonetheless, Buddy and Hal's musicianship was simply jaw-dropping that night, even under such terrible conditions.


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