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Topic: Help with self-disconnecting pedal rods |
Landon Johnson
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Washington, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2017 11:56 am |
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Due to my own poor technique, I occasionally let a pedal up abruptly (foot slips off) or, when I am releasing the A, my shoe gets an edge under the B and in both cases the rod disengages from the undercarriage and flops in the breeze.
Then I have to climb under there and reattach it. Yes it has happened on stage 
How is it supposed to be? Is there a way to retrofit some forgivenessd?
Oh - it's a BMI S-10...
Thanks
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Lee Baucum
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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 17 Dec 2017 12:00 pm
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Where does it disengage?
Are you talking about a pedal rod or one of the pull rods?
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Lee, from South Texas - Down On The Rio Grande
There are only two options as I see it.
Either I'm right, or there is a sinister conspiracy to conceal the fact that I'm right.
Williams Keyless S-10, BMI S-10, Evans FET-500LV, Fender Steel King, 2 Roland Cube 80XL's,
Sarno FreeLoader, Goodrich Passive Volume Pedals, Vintage ACE Pack-A-Seat
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Landon Johnson
From:
Washington, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2017 12:01 pm
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| Up under the undercarriage where it hooks onto the --- bellcrank? |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 17 Dec 2017 1:33 pm
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Sorry, but the answer to this one is also "practice". Probably everyone on here had that problem. It disappears with time.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, NV400, NV112 . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Landon Johnson
From:
Washington, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2017 2:24 pm
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| Richard Sinkler wrote: |
| Sorry, but the answer to this one is also "practice". Probably everyone on here had that problem. It disappears with time. |
I figured as much. It happens less often as time goes on... |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 17 Dec 2017 3:38 pm
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Couple things come to mind. Be sure the rods are hooked up properly, i.e. from the proper side of the pedal crank. Some guitars will go in either way, and sometimes use a part of the body to help prevent this.
Maybe use some self adhesive loose foam weatherstrip or similar to place between the body and the rod...either between the apron and the rod or the deck and the rod depending on how yours are oriented.
The stuff has enough give to facilitate connecting the rods, but should have enough spring back to help capture it somewhat. Might help your accidental disconnect issue... |
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Jim Palenscar
From:
Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2017 9:39 pm
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| You should not be able to make it happen. As best as I can recall, a BMI pedal rod will have the hook part looking at the player's side of the guitar. If it is hooked up correctly either there needs to be a slight bend put in the rod so it won't snap out or perhaps add a small piece of a furniture felt glide between the rod and the front apron to eliminate too much slack. |
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Bill Moore
From:
Manchester, Michigan
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Posted 18 Dec 2017 4:49 am
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This pictures shows how the pedal rods should be hooked up:
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Landon Johnson
From:
Washington, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2017 7:27 am Oh well,
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I've had them in backwards! I'll give it a try and see if it helps some.
Thank you!!! |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2017 8:11 am
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I guess it depends on the brand of guitar.
I've never had that problem.
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Tim Heidner
From:
Groves, TX
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Posted 18 Dec 2017 1:41 pm
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Duct tape!!!!
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Tim Heidner
From:
Groves, TX
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Posted 18 Dec 2017 1:58 pm
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| Landon Johnson wrote: |
| Up under the undercarriage where it hooks onto the --- bellcrank? |
The part name you're looking for is 'pedal actuator'.
Bell crank is the thingamajig with all the little bitty holes all in a row where the pull rods attach. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2017 2:00 pm
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These highly technical terms are giving me a headache!  |
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Tim Heidner
From:
Groves, TX
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Posted 18 Dec 2017 2:06 pm
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I had a headache when I had to learn those technical terms.  |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2017 2:08 pm
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Take an aspirin and call me in the morning!  |
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Tim Heidner
From:
Groves, TX
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Posted 18 Dec 2017 2:08 pm
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| OK, Doc! |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2017 2:09 pm
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David Mitchell
From:
Tyler, Texas
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Posted 25 Dec 2017 11:47 am
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| I've had a lot of different brands. Some pedal rods that are really thick are L-shaped at the end with only a slight flange to keep them in. I find that type fall out if you just look at them wrong. What I have been using is thick rods as usual but with a much thinner hook welded on to the rod so it is U-shaped and will not fall out. You might bend the rods to crap but they will not fall out. |
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David Mitchell
From:
Tyler, Texas
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Posted 25 Dec 2017 11:56 am
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I did mine this way. They won't fall out.
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