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Barry Blackwood


Post Posted 20 Nov 2017 10:00 am     Reply with quote

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Same with Hendrix, Elton John, Madonna, Prince, and anyone else who believes the spectacle is as important as the music.

From last night's AMA Awards, here's somebody who obviously believes that the spectacle is more than the music...
https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Pink-American-Music-Awards-Performance-2017-44266781
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Roger Rettig


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Post Posted 20 Nov 2017 10:04 am     Reply with quote

I think I'm safe in assuming that I'll never be asked to do that on a gig. If that had ever been a 'job requirement' I'd have learned to hang drywall instead.
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Barry Blackwood


Post Posted 20 Nov 2017 10:10 am     Reply with quote

It's hard for me to understand why a mother with two kids would put her life in jeopardy to do this.
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Fred Treece


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Post Posted 20 Nov 2017 1:12 pm     Reply with quote

Barry Blackwood wrote:

From last night's AMA Awards, here's somebody who obviously believes that the spectacle is more than the music...
https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Pink-American-Music-Awards-Performance-2017-44266781

It has to do with how much money you want to make and how far to take the sellout. So many performers are obviously talented singers and musicians, but they are also drawn to and driven by the theatrics of the Post MTV music entertainment machine.

Even Marty Stuart says one of the great things about doing what he does is wearing those gaudy clothes in front of a crowd. In Pink's case, she clearly writes the soundtrack to her visual act, as opposed to adding stage presence to her songs...like normal people Surprised
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Charlie McDonald


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Post Posted 21 Nov 2017 4:55 am     Reply with quote

Do you think it was lip-synced?
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Fred Treece


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Post Posted 21 Nov 2017 2:24 pm     Reply with quote

Charlie McDonald wrote:
Do you think it was lip-synced?

No. She was dancing on the side of a building. Just a wild guess, but I would say singing was probably the easy part.
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Barry Blackwood


Post Posted 22 Nov 2017 9:16 am     Reply with quote

Charlie and Fred - hard to tell if you guys are being facetious, but almost impossible to mic her under those circumstances...
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Herb Steiner


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Post Posted 22 Nov 2017 11:03 am     Reply with quote

Roger Rettig wrote:
I think I'm safe in assuming that I'll never be asked to do that on a gig. If that had ever been a 'job requirement' I'd have learned to hang drywall instead.


You might investigate drywall work as a backup career regardless, Roger. Y'know, if this music thing doesn't work out for ya. Winking
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Post Posted 22 Nov 2017 11:51 am     Reply with quote

Barry Blackwood wrote:
Charlie and Fred - hard to tell if you guys are being facetious, but almost impossible to mic her under those circumstances...

I agree. Then again, the whole thing was nearly impossible, right?

I was being partially serious though, because I believe Pink certainly could have been singing live if the technology was there. But a big show like this has to be timed perfectly with no technical disruption or sound check or tuning because it is all about the illusion of flawless performance. Was there even a band there? Everything is tracked. Including lead vocals, I presume.

As one of only 3 people in the world discussing whether Pink was lip-syncing during that flying trapeze act, I think I should get back to my regularly scheduled program.
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Barry Blackwood


Post Posted 22 Nov 2017 1:17 pm     Reply with quote

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Everything is tracked. Including lead vocals, I presume.

Yes, I think that would be a safe assumption..
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Roger Rettig


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Post Posted 22 Nov 2017 1:27 pm     Reply with quote

Herb.....

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Charlie McDonald


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Post Posted 23 Nov 2017 4:55 am     Reply with quote

Perhaps this example absolves Ms. Jory of over-emoting.
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Roger Rettig


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Post Posted 23 Nov 2017 5:24 am     Reply with quote

I don't know about that but I think we're safe in making the assumption that abseiling down a building during one's performance is an 'affectation'.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post Posted 23 Nov 2017 6:46 am     Reply with quote

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abseiling down a building during one's performance is an 'affectation'.


True. And roping down the building IS the performance. The is no musical performance since all the audio is pre-recorded. So basically it's a circus act performed to a track.
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Don R Brown


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Post Posted 23 Nov 2017 7:43 am     Reply with quote

I suppose if one was going UP the building it qualifies as scaling.....
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Doug Beaumier


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Post Posted 23 Nov 2017 8:24 am     Reply with quote

Yes, and she knows a lot of "cords".
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Jeff Garden


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Post Posted 23 Nov 2017 8:49 am     Reply with quote

I'm trying to picture a Ray Price abseiling production number of "My Shoes Keep Walking Back To You"
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Doug Beaumier


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Post Posted 23 Nov 2017 9:02 am     Reply with quote

"My Shoes Keep Bouncing Back To You"
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Post Posted 23 Nov 2017 9:29 am     Reply with quote

or Hank Locklin, "Please Help Me I'm Fallin'". The stunt team could have some fun with the abseiling brake and let Hank fall a story or two to match the lyrics.
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Fred Treece


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Post Posted 23 Nov 2017 10:11 am     Reply with quote

Pink is a unique talent. Writes and sings her own songs. Does acrobatics on a flying zip line in her live shows. She goes out there to impress and succeeds. Her music is not my cuppa java, but she is an excellent vocalist and a remarkable performer and there's no denying that she gives millions of people something they want and enjoy.
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Fred Treece


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Post Posted 23 Nov 2017 10:19 am     Reply with quote

I know, I'm no fun. But I already went through a whole list of songs about falling and buildings and getting up and 8 miles high and jumping and figured I probably wasn't the only one going there with this thread.
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Chris Walke


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Post Posted 27 Nov 2017 7:15 am     Reply with quote

Barry Blackwood wrote:
It's hard for me to understand why a mother with two kids would put her life in jeopardy to do this.


I'm sure there are plenty of mothers who perform dangerous/life-threatening jobs. Not that it's required for a pop music star, but...

It SEEMS like she feels she is always fighting hard for recognition, so she seems to be going with spectacle in an effort to keep folks talking about her. And as spectacle goes, this is a whole lot more positive than the Miley Cyrus spectacle from a couple years back, or Madonna many years back.

Anyway, she is a fabulous singer, and shouldn't feel she has to do stunts to stay relevant. And on awards shows, I've always thought the bands that DON'T create a giant spectacle are the most memorable to me, because they are not putting "show" ahead of music.
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Andy Volk


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Post Posted 27 Nov 2017 9:31 am     Reply with quote

There's no business like show business.
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Barry Blackwood


Post Posted 27 Nov 2017 9:44 am     Reply with quote

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I'm sure there are plenty of mothers who perform dangerous/life-threatening jobs.

You're probably right Chris, but I would hope it wouldn't be plenty..
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Charlie McDonald


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Post Posted 27 Nov 2017 11:19 am     Reply with quote

The dress was somewhat dangerous.
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