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Ian Rae
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Posted 3 Nov 2017 2:44 pm |
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Apart from GFI, which has a dealer in the UK, what other makers are there who make keyless unis and would ship to this country? Not being lazy, but I can't find a search which helps.
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Sonny Jenkins
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Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
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Posted 3 Nov 2017 3:57 pm
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| I would think Excel and Williams for sure?? |
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Marty Broussard
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Broussard, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 3 Nov 2017 4:20 pm
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Ian,
Lamar Colvin would likely build you a keyless unit. You should be able to find him via the forum of google.
Good luck,
MB
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Doc Hall
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Galveston, Tx
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Posted 3 Nov 2017 4:26 pm
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| Excel will ship. Check out their website. |
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 4 Nov 2017 3:23 am
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| How about a second hand KLINE guitar? Why not put an ad in the WANTED section here in the Forum and in some of the Forums in Europe, Australia and New Zeeland ? Good luck, steve t |
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 4 Nov 2017 4:42 am
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I would love a Kline - in fact the one I built myself was modeled on it in many respects. I do look out but they don't come up too often.
It's surprising that so few current makers offer keyless tuners, but I suppose they know the market.
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Bruce Derr
From:
Lee, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 4 Nov 2017 8:38 am
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| I would never buy a new steel that wasn't keyless, but I suppose I'm in the minority. |
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Ken Campbell
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Ferndale, Montana
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Posted 4 Nov 2017 9:01 am
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| Johnie King makes a keyless |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 4 Nov 2017 9:36 am
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 4 Nov 2017 9:38 am
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| Marty Dose Lamar still build I always wanted one of his keyless steels. |
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Bruce Derr
From:
Lee, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 4 Nov 2017 10:34 am
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| There's also Sierra, and the one I'm most intrigued by, OnTrak. |
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Malcolm McMaster
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Beith Ayrshire Scotland
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Posted 4 Nov 2017 11:11 am
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Ian, saw the Excel at Dallas Show.
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 4 Nov 2017 12:32 pm
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| That Exel looks good bet it almst plays it self. |
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 4 Nov 2017 1:20 pm
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I'm not sure it's the wait I can't afford! I would love a Sierra, but they do promise to be a lot pricier than anything that's gone before. But I shall follow their progress.
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Paul Sutherland
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Placerville, California
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Posted 4 Nov 2017 3:24 pm
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BMI
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Norbert Dengler
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 6 Nov 2017 5:06 am
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Thanks for all the various responses. The BMI website says it's undergoing repair - does that mean they're still in business or no?
Schild are clearly well-engineered, but their keyless tuner misses the point I think, as it's as long as a conventional one and has just as much length of string between the nut and the puller.
I'm still surprised at how complicated many/most/all keyless tuners are compared to the one I built with simple tools. It works perfectly, holds the string still so it doesn't have to roll on anything, and is less than 2" long. I am not a genius - it's just a miniature pull-release changer!
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Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 6 Nov 2017 6:50 am
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Ian, your keyless tuner shines with an elegant simplicity. I prefer playing keyless guitars myself for the smaller size and ease of changing strings, which can be seen on this one you designed. The one I have in Beijing fits in a saxophone case.
My problem is I have never broken a string on my Klines and rarely change strings because I am so lazy. Stevet |
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Sonny Jenkins
From:
Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
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Posted 6 Nov 2017 7:20 am
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Ian, here are some pics of my keyless tuner, a slightly modified Kline tuner, very simple, less than 1" from nut to tuner contact.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=310196&highlight=keyless+tuners
Of course this is a lap steel,,,I am currently rebuilding a "keyed" S10 Cougar that will probably wind up being keyless since conventional tuning keys seem senseless to me (as they seem to to some of the worlds premier builders) |
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Damir Besic
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Nashville,TN.
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Posted 7 Nov 2017 2:09 pm
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| Ian Rae wrote: |
| I would love a Kline - in fact the one I built myself was modeled on it in many respects. I do look out but they don't come up too often.... |
it will be here tomorrow...
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Sonny Jenkins
From:
Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
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Posted 7 Nov 2017 2:44 pm
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| Hey Damir,,,first SD10 I've seen,,,must not have been very many made. I think Joe made more 12 string uni's than anything. |
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Damir Besic
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Posted 7 Nov 2017 2:49 pm
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| Sonny Jenkins wrote: |
| Hey Damir,,,first SD10 I've seen,,,must not have been very many made. |
right, thats what I was thinking, I have only seen a very few Kline's and they were all U12 , I don;t think I've ever seen SD10 before ... this one is arriving tomorrow, and can't wait to check it out... 
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 1 Dec 2017 3:20 pm
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Can anyone with a recent model Excel tell me how many raises/lowers there are on the changer? From pictures I've found it looks like plenty but I can't see exactly.
Thanks
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Damir Besic
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Nashville,TN.
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Posted 1 Dec 2017 3:24 pm
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| Ian Rae wrote: |
Can anyone with a recent model Excel tell me how many raises/lowers there are on the changer? From pictures I've found it looks like plenty but I can't see exactly.
Thanks |
more then you'll ever need
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