INSTRUCTION STRINGS ACCESSORIES MUSIC LINKS
 Visit Our Catalog at SteelGuitarShopper.com for Steel Guitars, Strings, Instruction, Music and Accessories 
Forum Index
where steel players meet online
The Steel Guitar Forum

How do you like it now? (Details)



Post new topic Slide/lap tuning on AJ's Good Time?
Reply to topic
Author Topic:  Slide/lap tuning on AJ's Good Time?
Jerry Overstreet


From:
Louisville Ky
Post Posted 7 Mar 2017 7:31 am     Reply with quote

What's everybody think is the slide tuning on this tune?
Song plays in E. I've tried open E and open G, so I dunno.

Credits for lap steel on the album go to Paul F. and Robbie Flint, so I don't know who did this one.

Solo starts around 1:40. Thanks. https://youtu.be/kWgL4NXO-X4
View user's profile Send private message
ajm


From:
Los Angeles
Post Posted 7 Mar 2017 9:03 am     Reply with quote

I don't know what you are trying to play this on, but if it's a regular 6 string..........

I didn't recognize any "open" sounding strings in the recording.
I did recognize (I think) a 7th sounding lick or two.
So.......

Tune the guitar like a regular 6 string, but drop the high E to a D. This will give you that 7th sound on the top two strings.
It will also give you a full "open tuned" chord if you need it on the four treble strings.

In addition, if you drop the low E to a D, you will have an "open tuned" chord on the bottom three strings if you ever need it.

Just a suggestion, which may or may not work.
If it works, I want all of the credit.
If it doesn't, I was never here.
View user's profile Send private message
Tim Heidner


From:
Port Arthur, TX
Post Posted 7 Mar 2017 4:55 pm     Reply with quote

C6 High G works.
View user's profile Send private message
ajm


From:
Los Angeles
Post Posted 11 Mar 2017 8:49 am     Reply with quote

So what did you find?
View user's profile Send private message
Jerry Overstreet


From:
Louisville Ky
Post Posted 11 Mar 2017 11:09 am     Reply with quote

I haven't messed with it enough to decide. I'm pretty sure this is recorded with a lap steel, Rattler or some such open tuned instrument.

So far, I think open tuned G....DGDGBD...lo to high, gets me the range I want for the solo and the A fills which are the signature slide licks for me.

I can play it in open E of course, or Dobro G, it's just a matter of trying to mimic the recording as close as possible. Getting the right tone and dirt is a challenge too.

I'm using 6 string lap steels for this. It's not unusual for me to retune between songs as called for. Sometimes I tune in open D and capo up 2 for E on a lot of rock and blues tunes. I use a hi G string set and tune these open tunings with them.

View user's profile Send private message
Dave Mudgett


From:
Central Pennsylvania
Post Posted 11 Mar 2017 12:18 pm     Reply with quote

It just sounds like standard Open E slide guitar "box patterns" to me. A lot of those licks involve glissing down two frets and immediately getting back up to play the next note on the lower string. I'm channeling Duane when thinking about this approach.

Of course, this can be done on a slide guitar, a steel, or in different tunings with different patterns. But both Open E (with roots on strings 1 and 6), Open A (with 5ths on strings 1 and 6), or either of those moved up or down (as you show in your pic) have all those basic box patterns. Your G dobro tuning would work too. But with Open E, you get the open root-chord. I think all this stuff lays out fine without even needing to use any Sonny Landreth-style fretting in back of the slide or anything fancy like that. Of course, if you fret behind the bar, it's easy to get tons of additional variations without needing to slide. But I don't hear any of that here.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Tim Heidner


From:
Port Arthur, TX
Post Posted 11 Mar 2017 7:19 pm     Reply with quote

Did you try the C6? Paul Franklin seems to be pretty fond of it.

I'm not saying it's gonna work great for the whole song, but it sure does work for that solo.

I've been studying on Paul Franklin's work in the Peter Frampton song 'Double Nickels' from the album Fingerprints. That song is in G minor, he's playing in C6, and he plays some really nice stuff in it. Pretty sure that one is on the pedal steel, though.
View user's profile Send private message
Jerry Overstreet


From:
Louisville Ky
Post Posted 12 Mar 2017 8:15 am     Reply with quote

Tim, not yet. The guitars are out where we rehearse, so I'll try these tunings when we get together again. You say C6 Hi G? Mind listing the tuning lo to hi for 6 string?

Thanks for all the suggestions.
View user's profile Send private message
Tim Heidner


From:
Port Arthur, TX
Post Posted 12 Mar 2017 10:31 am     Reply with quote

Well, I play C6 on my 8 string, but if I was gonna do it on 6, I would probably go

C-G-A-C-E-G low to high


I got to thinking about it, you can play that in Open E, you're just gonna have to go a little higher up the neck, is all.
View user's profile Send private message
Tim Heidner


From:
Port Arthur, TX
Post Posted 12 Mar 2017 10:46 am     Reply with quote

I just tried on my Open E 6 string lap, it works great. You're gonna be using thicker strings, too, so that will make it fatten up like the record.

I'm changing my vote. Mr. Green

Dave Mudgett was right all along. I've been trying to learn how to C6 on my new Kingpin for the last couple weeks, I guess I had brain fart.
View user's profile Send private message

All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Jump to:  

Our Online Catalog
Strings, CDs, instruction,
steel guitars & accessories

www.SteelGuitarShopper.com

Steel Guitar Music
Instrumental steel guitar CDs for your permanent collection
www.SteelGuitarMusic.com

BIAB Styles
Ray Price Shuffles
for Band-in-a-Box

by Jim Baron

Please review our Forum Rules and Policies

The Steel Guitar Forum
148 South Cloverdale Blvd.
Cloverdale, CA 95425 USA

Support This Forum

advertisement