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Topic: Help with Paper Roses, please? |
Jana Lockaby
From: Kaufman, TX
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Posted 20 Jul 2016 8:56 am
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I was hoping, someone, could help me verify the chords in Paper Roses. Let’s say this is in the key of A. Focusing on the chorus, at “oh, How, it goes to the 6, or F#7, and then the 2m, or Bm. Now, is the F#7, just a F#7, or is it truly, a F#7m? I'll add more depending on the responses, if necessary.
I’m doing this on dobro, if that matters. Thanks, and I hope the link works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3fqJkTeDNU
Also, wasn’t this a blast from the past. Any idea who is on steel? |
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Howard Parker
From: Maryland
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Posted 20 Jul 2016 9:44 am
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Jana,
I hear F#m
yer pal Howard |
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Jana Lockaby
From: Kaufman, TX
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Posted 20 Jul 2016 10:37 am
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Thanks, Howard. That’s what I thought. I was trying to make a chord chart. What I was playing did not match anything I found on the web. Even my BIAB track has it F#7, but with a +, whatever that means.
Trying to get the best sound, I tried a number of variations, in various places. The Bb was just wrong, wrong, wrong. The other notes in the F#7 chord I could work with. I was a little confused, when I tried the F#m and the A fit too. I changed it in BIAB, and it worked there as well. That F#7+ is what was really blowing my mind, and nothing I found on the web was correct, either. Anyway, the moral of the story, always go with your ears?
Hope to see you in Nov. thanks, again. |
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Jim Smith
From: Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2016 2:06 pm
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I hear 6-, 2-, 5 or F#m7, Bm7, E7 in the key of A. And that's the great Curly Chalker playing steel on that tune. |
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Jana Lockaby
From: Kaufman, TX
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Posted 20 Jul 2016 5:24 pm
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Thanks, Jim. |
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Jerry Overstreet
From: Louisville Ky
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Posted 22 Jul 2016 10:04 am
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I defer to the more knowledgeable, but in the second line of the chorus, between "but they're only imitations" and "like your....", the F# major fits really well there. |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 22 Jul 2016 10:59 am
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Key of C:
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Jana Lockaby
From: Kaufman, TX
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Posted 22 Jul 2016 4:31 pm
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Thanks Erv.
Jerry, the interesting, and confusing, thing to me, was band in a box. I tried it both ways, major7, and minor. It worked both ways in biab. It did not work on the dobro. I tried a straight bar at the 11th fret, horrible. The Bb didn't work anywhere, any combination, on my dobro, just horrible. I don't get it, but I'm sticking with the minor, or actually, just avoiding a Bb. I don't get how it can work both ways in band Ina box, but it does. |
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Jerry Overstreet
From: Louisville Ky
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Posted 22 Jul 2016 5:05 pm
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Well, I just played through it on Reso with the video you posted. I don't hear the F# as a major chord there, so I concede. I don't have BIAB so I don't know whose track they are using.
If the major chord sounds wrong to you against that track, then it is. Always trust your ear.
I'll have to look up the old 50's/60's recording. That may be where I'm remembering a major change.
Nice tune though and I'm sure you make it sound just great. |
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Jana Lockaby
From: Kaufman, TX
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Posted 22 Jul 2016 5:19 pm
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Thanks, Jerry. It's still a work in progress at the moment. |
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Mark Carlisle
From: Springville CA
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Posted 25 Jul 2016 3:29 pm
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Whenever I see a + sign on a chart I think of it as an augmented chord, or what is also referred to as a augmented triad. These types of chords are generally used as "passing" chords to flow into the next chord of the song and usually don't last more than a few beats.
This tonality and movement is essential in material such as jazz and American Songbook tunes,as is it's partner, the diminished chord.
In country-not so much.. |
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