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Ronald Sikes
From: Corsicana, Tx
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Posted 19 Apr 2016 8:27 am
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I love my Show Pro guitars , however I've never played a Williams. But it seems it will be easy for you to decide since Damir has a Williams for you to try and Jeff is just outside of Nashville as well. Best of luck in your decision. _________________ Show Pro #26 & #83,BJS bars,Stereo Steel,Tommy Huff cabs loaded with JBL D130's, Wampler pedals,NV112,NV400, Steelers Choice Seats |
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Mark van Allen
From: Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 19 Apr 2016 8:29 am
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Yes, the weightier guitar feels substantial... again, what I would call 'classic" build. The Williams is much lighter although doesn't "walk" or feel insubstantial when played. The pedals on the Williams are aluminum channel stock, and feel/ look somewhat cheap to me, but they play perfectly, and the undercarriage stops are solid and tight. Apples and oranges of a kind. The topside finish on my guitar rivals any laquer job I've seen. Again, it would be great to be able to play several individual guitars of each brand to see what really rings your bell. _________________ Stop by the Steel Store at: www.markvanallen.com
www.musicfarmstudio.com |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 19 Apr 2016 10:45 am
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David Friedlander wrote: |
The weight also gives the Showpro a more solid ( and expensive) feel. |
in that respect, i've had several 'expensive' feeling
guitars.
that's kinda funny in an era that has put so much emphasis on lightwejght guitars. |
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Andrew Keenan
From: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2016 6:26 am
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Thanks for all the replies! I wound up buying Damir's Williams 700 S-10. Looking forward to taking it out on the road this weekend for a test drive!
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Damir Besic
From: Nashville,TN.
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Posted 20 Apr 2016 10:21 am
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Andrew, I really enjoyed talking to you... this is a great sounding, and playing, light weight guitar... and on top of that comes with a wheeled case... I am sure you will be very pleased with this instrument...
your pal
damir
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donation to the forum going out shortly... _________________ https://steelguitarsonline.com/ |
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David Friedlander
From: New York, New York, USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2016 11:18 am
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Sweet looking axe!!
Congrats, I'll bet you'll be back with a rave review next week |
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Jerry Overstreet
From: Louisville Ky
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Posted 20 Apr 2016 11:34 am
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Terrific and unique Williams there. I might have considered it if it were keyless.
I've no experience with Show-Pro guitars, but I let a really nice lacquer keyless Williams 400 get away. It was a fine playing and sounding instrument with a friendly footprint and a tote factor that wouldn't break your back. Wish I still had it. |
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John Palumbo
From: Lansdale, PA.
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Posted 22 Apr 2016 11:27 am
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That is a beauty, love the finish. |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 22 Apr 2016 11:58 am
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Mike Perlowin wrote: |
Andrew, human nature being what it is, everybody is going to tell you that the brand they play is the beat. |
Not everybody, Mike! As you've already said, they're all pretty good, now. Pick one you like, Andrew, and start playing. |
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Ron Shalita
From: California, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2018 10:38 am Williams
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I have a Williams 12 string that I bought here on the forum, and have to say that it is a really nice guitar I love the changer ... never breaks strings, and it is a breeze to change them, never a fight to get them to stay in the changer like my Emmons... the sound is kind of dark compared to the Emmons... maybe wood instead of metal neck makes the difference... my thoughts are you can get use to any sound you have if you play it enough... _________________ Been playing all of my life, Lead Guitar, and Pedal Steel, sing Lead and Harmony.. play other Instruments also but I hate to admit to it.. |
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Ron Shalita
From: California, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2018 2:33 pm Williams
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I have a Williams 12 string that I bought here on the forum, and have to say that it is a really nice guitar I love the changer ... never breaks strings, and it is a breeze to change them, never a fight to get them to stay in the changer like my Emmons... the sound is kind of dark compared to the Emmons... maybe wood instead of metal neck makes the difference... my thoughts are you can get use to any sound you have if you play it enough... _________________ Been playing all of my life, Lead Guitar, and Pedal Steel, sing Lead and Harmony.. play other Instruments also but I hate to admit to it.. |
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Jim Bob Sedgwick
From: Clinton, Missouri USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2018 3:44 pm Re: Williams
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Ron Shalita wrote: |
I have a Williams 12 string that I bought here on the forum, and have to say that it is a really nice guitar I love the changer ... never breaks strings, and it is a breeze to change them, never a fight to get them to stay in the changer like my Emmons... the sound is kind of dark compared to the Emmons... maybe wood instead of metal neck makes the difference... my thoughts are you can get use to any sound you have if you play it enough... |
Having both Williams.Keyless wood single neck. Williams D-10 8x7 keyless, metal neck. I have AB'd them side by side. There's not 2 cents difference in sound, The only difference I see is the wood neck stays in tune better if you are outside in the heat. Difference is negligible, and I have played Williams for 32 years. Both single neck and double neck are great guitars. Hopo this helps someone |
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Billy Carr
From: Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
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Posted 22 Jun 2018 9:55 pm Psg
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Cross shafts are round on the ShowPro guitars which is why I didn't buy one 6 or 7 years ago. Great guitars. You'll find the Williams with square cross shafts are much easier to make changes with also. Check the Williams website, as they have weight info and everything else listed. Good luck. |
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John McClung
From: Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 23 Jun 2018 10:13 am
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Don't overlook the Desert Rose Vintage Pro, which I believe comes stock with 2 pickups and a blend switch, for great tonal variety. Chuck Back is a great builder and guy to deal with. He also makes 12-strings, uni or extended E9. For sound, check videos of Gary Morse and Dan Tyack. _________________ E9 INSTRUCTION
▪️ If you want to have an ongoing discussion, please email me, don't use the Forum messaging which I detest! steelguitarlessons@earthlink.net |
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Wayne Baker
From: Oklahoma
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Posted 30 Jun 2018 2:27 am Re: Psg
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[quote="Billy Carr"]Cross shafts are round on the ShowPro guitars...
Show Pro cross shafts are round, however there is no slip whatsoever. I own purple Show Pro #164 and have a D10 being built right now.
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Wayne Baker
From: Oklahoma
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Posted 30 Jun 2018 2:43 am Show Pro
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Lovin my Show Pro... _________________ Thanks,
Wayne Baker
Show Pro D10 (#217) w9&7, Emmons D10 (#6613) w8&5, Nashville 1000, Nashville 400, Beard E model reso, Dobro and a Martin D41... |
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Billy Carr
From: Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
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Posted 30 Jun 2018 5:30 am Psg
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I really like the purple lacquer guitar. Nice. Thanks. |
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Wayne Baker
From: Oklahoma
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Posted 30 Jun 2018 5:44 am Show Pro
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My new one will be two tone purple and natural. 9&7. _________________ Thanks,
Wayne Baker
Show Pro D10 (#217) w9&7, Emmons D10 (#6613) w8&5, Nashville 1000, Nashville 400, Beard E model reso, Dobro and a Martin D41... |
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Joe Cook
From: Lake Osoyoos, WA
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Posted 30 Jun 2018 5:38 pm
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John McClung wrote: |
Don't overlook the Desert Rose Vintage Pro, which I believe comes stock with 2 pickups and a blend switch, for great tonal variety. Chuck Back is a great builder and guy to deal with. He also makes 12-strings, uni or extended E9. For sound, check videos of Gary Morse and Dan Tyack. |
John is right. You should check out the Desert Rose. I feel they are worth way more than Chuck Back charges! Light weight, very tidy undercarriage, beautiful lacquer finish,stays in tune, can't go wrong! |
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Craig A Davidson
From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 1 Jul 2018 5:57 am
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So how did this thread drift? It's about the comparison between Show- Pro and Williams guitars. Nothing was said about Desert Rose. |
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Joe Cook
From: Lake Osoyoos, WA
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Posted 1 Jul 2018 8:22 am
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Andrew Keenan wrote: |
Thanks for the reply Mike. I have tried out a handful of other steels over the years. I wish I could try them all! I have played GFI for many years and it has served me very well. I've decided that it's time try something new. Based on some friends' recommendations and some sounds I've heard I had narrowed down my search to these two. I'd certainly be interested in hearing other people's favorites and what they like about them!
-Andy |
OP said he was interested. Sorry if I offended anyone. |
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Lee Baucum
From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 1 Jul 2018 9:25 am
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Andrew's post was from 2 years ago.
Looks like he purchased a Williams from Damir. _________________ Lee, from South Texas - Down On The Rio Grande
There are only two options as I see it.
Either I'm right, or there is a sinister conspiracy to conceal the fact that I'm right.
Williams Keyless S-10, BMI S-10, Evans FET-500LV, Fender Steel King, 2 Roland Cube 80XL's,
Sarno FreeLoader, Goodrich Passive Volume Pedals, Vintage ACE Pack-A-Seat |
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Jeremy Threlfall
From: now in Western Australia
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Billy Carr
From: Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
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Posted 3 Jul 2018 2:19 am Psg
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Gary Rittenberry builds a great guitar, as Show Pro, Williams and several others do. I've owned two RB's. Currently I'm playing a Williams. The purple SP on this section is a beautiful guitar ! Thanks. |
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Ron Hogan
From: Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 3 Jul 2018 6:53 am
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After 20 years with my Zum steel, I ordered a D10 Williams that I should take delivery of this month (6 month wait).
I plan on doing a video review which currently there is nothing on YouTube about.
Still will keep my ZUM which I love. Tried a couple Williams' here in Nashville and they are excellent.
Ron |
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