E9 7th string lower F# > F : ???

Drew Howard · From: 48854

Emmons and TW use this change (RKL or RKR). So other than getting a minor chord in pedals up, can the mighty forum pros explain?

thanks heaps,

Drew
http://www.drewhoward.com/saltines

[This message was edited by Drew Howard on 08 December 2003 at 07:27 AM.]

Larry Bell · From: Englewood, Florida

If you think about it from a C6 standpoint (B6 open with E's lowered), it gives a nice I II7 the same way the lowering G to F# on C6 works.

If you can lower 6 to F# you will also have three consecutive chromatic notes on 8,7,6 (E, F, F#). I do it on my 'Franklin pedal' (P1 on my Fessy) since I never use the 7th string with that pedal. I believe Buddy combined it with his G# to F#.

Just analyze it with all the chord positions on E9, I'm sure you'll find lots o' stuff.

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2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps

C Dixon · From: Duluth, GA USA

Larry is soo correct.

However I do not believe (although I do NOT know for sure) that BE uses it this way. I believe he uses it along with the G# to F# to get a lick he used on Clinton Gregory's hit a few years back whose title eludes me. I seem to hear Buddy walking up these notes in a fast staccato effect on this recording.

Dada da dum, dada da dum if one was humming it really fast.

Buddy?

carl

Bengt Erlandsen · From: Brekstad, NORWAY

I like to think about that change: w E's lowered I have a minor7th chord. Lowering 7F#-F in that position will give a minor6th chord that susbstitutes for a dom9th chord. Example at 3rd fret w E's lowered is a Bm7th on strings 7 6 5 4 ( b7 R b3 5 ) lowering 7th string to F in the same position (3rd fret) gives a Bm6 (6 R b3 5) which is a substitute for an E9chord, (3 5 b7 9) on the same strings.

It is also nice to resolve the 4th note to a 3rd when playing in the A+F position on strings 3 4 5 6 7.

Also nice is this



F#--------------------------------


Eb---------5~~5bb~~~~-------------


G#--------------------------------


E---------------------------------


B-------5~~~~~~~~5~~~~---5~~5b~5--


G#-----------------5~~------------


F#---5~~~~~~~~~~~5b~~~~--5~~5~~5--


E------------------------5~~5~~5b-


D---------------------------------


B---------------------------------


 


 


or like this if you don't have B-Bb lower


F#--------------------------------


Eb---------5~~5bb~~~~-------------


G#--------------------------------


E---------------------------------


B-------5~~~~~~~~5~~~~---3##~3#~3##(Cped/half Cped)


G#-----------------5~~---3~~~3~~3--


F#---5~~~~~~~~~~~5b~~~---3~~~3~~3b-


E----------------------------------


D----------------------------------


B----------------------------------

I have both 7 & 1 F#-F(P4) next to my Cped

It also gives a nice ringing Dom9 across all strings if one lowers 2&9 to C#, E's-Eb and 7 F#-F

Plenty of other things to use the F#-F for but this should give some ideas.

Bengt Erlandsen
ZumSteel S12 extE9 7+7
JCH D10 8+8

[This message was edited by Bengt Erlandsen on 08 December 2003 at 04:05 PM.]

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