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Rick Collins

 

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Claremont , CA USA
Post  Posted 4 Dec 2003 9:56 am    
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...no, not yet; but in the future might not this be feasible and probable? Manipulating the molecular and atomic structure of many materials is being forecast to make them stronger for the future. Our G# To A third string might never break prematurely, if this technology can be applied to nickel steel.

...so, if you have a Fender 1000 that you enjoy playing as I do; keep it.

Rick

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Jay Fagerlie


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Lotus, California, USA
Post  Posted 4 Dec 2003 10:05 am    
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Rick, I just posted a topic on my Fender 1000. Do you have any knee levers? Maybe you can give me some pointers....Thanks
Jay
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Rick Collins

 

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Claremont , CA USA
Post  Posted 4 Dec 2003 10:20 am    
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Jay, I haven't added any knee levers to my Fender 1000. It has nine floor pedals, (I use the nineth pedal to lower the E's).

I like to play some of the early pedal work such as Mooney played on the 1000. I still love the Fender sound;___it really cuts through the mudd and thud.

Rick
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HowardR


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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
Post  Posted 4 Dec 2003 10:24 am    
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So then the lucky seven will be rendered obsolete?
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Joey Ace


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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 4 Dec 2003 10:42 am    
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Could it be that "manipulating the molecular and atomic structure" of strings could also keep them from wearing out and loosing their harmonic properties? (becoming "dead")

Sounds like science fiction, but so do a lot of current day items, including this Forum.

A set of strings that never needs changing and always sounds like new?

Heck, I'd pay double for those!
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Gino Iorfida

 

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Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 4 Dec 2003 3:21 pm    
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Of course the strings would not only not ever wear out, but woud resist windings compressing, and keep the crud out of the windings... yet still be soft enough not to chew up the changer fingers....

not to mention, even if such a string would exist, it woud put too many string companies out of business... in other words, it would never happen.
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Brian Edwards

 

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Santa Fe, NM USA
Post  Posted 4 Dec 2003 7:56 pm    
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Somebody's making something up, and trying to get somebody else to believe in the possibility that the laws of physics can be overridden.

Something always has to give. Friction will always be with us. Perpetual motion is an impossibility...need I go on?

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Brian Edwards

 

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Santa Fe, NM USA
Post  Posted 4 Dec 2003 8:02 pm    
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Let's call them "solid state strings".
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Roger Shackelton

 

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MINNESOTA (deceased)
Post  Posted 5 Dec 2003 1:24 am    
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Jay, Michael Johnstone added knee levers to a Fender 800, S-10 steel guitar.

Roger
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Rainer Hackstaette


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Bohmte, Germany
Post  Posted 5 Dec 2003 5:32 am    
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Quote:
Something always has to give. Friction will always be with us. Perpetual motion is an impossibility ...


How true! So, let's not be greedy and be satisfied with 50%. Half an eternity would still be plenty of time ...
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Lee Baucum


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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
Post  Posted 5 Dec 2003 6:47 am    
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"Our G# To A third string might never break prematurely..."

If we could just have some indication as to when the string "matures" and is going to break!

Oooh. Is that like knowing when our will is going to "mature"?

Lee Baucum
Steel Picking Trust Officer/Estate Administrator from South Texas
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Nicholas Dedring

 

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Beacon, New York, USA
Post  Posted 5 Dec 2003 9:55 am    
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Aren't strings cheap enough that no one would buy these things? Especially if unbreakable .011s only matter to steel players...?

I hate having them snap and changing them on the fly, but I sure wouldn't pay fifty bucks for an far more break resistant string, either.
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Michael Johnstone


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Sylmar,Ca. USA
Post  Posted 5 Dec 2003 10:00 am    
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OR.....you could just get an Excel keyless which never ever breaks any strings - even the pesky 3rd.
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Bob Carlson

 

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Surprise AZ.
Post  Posted 5 Dec 2003 3:48 pm    
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Rick,
There are a lot of Nascar engine builders that would also like to have that technology today.

1955 GM (Chev) came out with the first short stroke, small block engine. Instead of the piston traveling 10" it only went 5" producing less heat allowing the engine to turn 6,000 rpm.

But now the valve springs built up the heat because they had to bend so many more times and they would break.

Now it's 2003 and they are still the weakest part of the engine...but they now also turn them at 9,600 rpm so some inprovement must have been made.

Bob

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Rick Collins

 

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Claremont , CA USA
Post  Posted 5 Dec 2003 5:41 pm    
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Nanotechnology is amazing; and many believe just below the horizon.

Materials:

Advanced ceramics - glass and tiles that never get dirty - NO KIDDING!

Automobile tires that never go flat - NO KIDDING!
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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2003 1:18 am    
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With nano technology imbedded in the string, it could continually repair itself using the motive force of our playing for energy to do the reparations.

And then again the nano tubes could leach off into our bodies and cause a new form of cancer never seen before.

Or, lord help us, cyborg steelers from the 6th dimension!

The future remains to be seen...
Quite obviously, LOL.

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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2003 2:42 am    
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And don't forget while we are in our quest for an unbreakable string that the Titanic was "UnSinkable"..

And what about them thar' Lightbulbs that are supposed to last years over the standard ole' Wallmart brand..they cost $2.50 each and maybe last a day longer..

And don't forget LongLife batteries...Longer than what or who's life? Whats the reference ?

And lets not forget Mobile One Oil..you never change it..Do ya ? or do ya not ?

Ok..I'm ready for the unbreakable string..but I have one question..How long does the fresh bright tone last ? I have not broken a string on my Tele' in probably two years, but I change them every few weeks 'cause they loose their snap..you know that special round wound tone that brings it alive..

I guess it's the infamous $.50 cent/.011 that everyone is concerned about..

So I guess if we have an unbreakable .011 on the Steel we will never worry that it will break right in the middle of that most excellent solo we are playing as soon as we mash Pedal B..right ?


I see an Iceburg on the Horizon...
T

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C Dixon

 

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Duluth, GA USA
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2003 8:23 am    
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Amen Michael Johnstone!

The Excel is one of only two currently made PSG's that simply do NOT break strings. Yes even the 3rd string. If a string breaks on these guitars it was defective the day you put it on.

How is this possible? Is there perpetual motion?

Answer is YES and NO.

There is of course no such thing on this earth as perpetual motion. There WILL be in heaven. But until we get there, there is not.

And Yes the Excel and Anapeg PSG's do not break strings. You can keep an .011 on there for 3 or more years and play it daily 2 or more hours and it will NOT break the string.

How come you say?

The reason is; they redesigned the changer to get totally around WHY a string breaks. IE, all other currently made changers work on the principle of bending the string back and forth to change pitch.

This is WHY the string breaks. It is NOT due to its being stretched. Both guitars prove this beyond any shadow of a doubt. Since these guitars's changers do NOT bend the string to change pitch. Rather, the string is pulled back and forth in an almost straight line to change pitch.

Any skeptic of this should have the experience that Bill Stafford, Michael Johnstone, David Phillips, Gary Steele, me or any other person lucky enough to have one of these magnificent changers; that do NOT break strings.

carl
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2003 1:59 pm    
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What is it that prevents Anapeg and Excell from being more dominant in the Steel marketplace ? Is it just us stuck in our old Sho-Bud/Emmons/ or traditional ways ?


T
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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2003 3:10 pm    
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I suspect that is point of manufacture and cost.
If memory serves.
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