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James Ives

 

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Post  Posted 11 Mar 2015 7:07 pm    
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Is it Overall, better to have a G or D on the first string?
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Jim
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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 11 Mar 2015 7:12 pm    
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Absolutely.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 11 Mar 2015 7:46 pm    
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I recommend a D, and a raise of either 3 or 3&7 that you can hit with P5, so that you have a high 5 three frets up.
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Greg Cutshaw


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Corry, PA, USA
Post  Posted 12 Mar 2015 4:02 am    
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If you are willing to make a slight tradeoff in string gage, you can tune the high string between a G and a D! I use a D most of the time except when playing some Pete Drake Style stuff.
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Jack Stoner


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Post  Posted 12 Mar 2015 5:43 am    
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I still have the G. I've tried the D and lose licks and go back to the G.

Herby Wallace used the G. Herby didn't miss anything by not having the D string.
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Steve Knight

 

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Post  Posted 12 Mar 2015 7:44 am    
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I have a D on top of my tuning. I had played non-pedal C6 before buying a pedal steel. My non-pedal had a G. I was worried about changing from G to D. I rarely miss the G. There are pros and cons to both, though.

With the G, you can have that minor 3rd interval between strings 1 & 2 (E & G) in one position, or a higher voicing of your C6/Amin chords on strings 1-4, GECA. With the D tuning, If you step on P6, raising your 2nd string from E to F, you create a minor interval on strings 1 & 2, FD. The difference is that you have F & D on strings 1 & 2 instead of E & G, like with the G tuning. I actually prefer this, as I can play an ascending harmonized scale move:

CE, strings 3 & 2, fret 0;
FD, strings 2 & 1, fret 0 w/P6;
GE, strings 2 & 1, fret 2 w/P6.

Notice that the lower note of the minor intervals are on string 1.That doesn't matter if you're picking both notes at the same time. I use this move a lot, maybe too much.

If you go with a G and you raise it 1/2 step, and lower your C to B on string 3, you can get a good "3" chord/triad. If you're going from a C chord to an E chord for tunes like "All of Me", "Sunny Side of the Street", and some swing tunes I can't recall now, that's a nice tuning.

With the D on top, I step on P6, raising E to F on string 2, getting a "4" chord, strings 234 for FCA but slide the bar back one fret to get an E chord. If you played strings 1234 with P6, that's a F6th chord (FACD, but the order is DFCA), or a D minor 7th. If you raise that D one half-step (like I mentioned on raising the G, above) while pressing P6, that F6th chord becomes a F dominant 7th. Moving the bar up 2 frets, you get your G7: FGDB

One other things I like about the D tuning is the ability to play a quick single-note run without moving your bar. I often warm-up with eighth-note runs ascending: string 54312 (for GACDE—and maybe slide up 3 frets after hitting string 2 for a G note); or descending: strings 21345 (EDCAG). Note that these 5 notes are the C pentatonic major scale and A minor pentatonic scale. These are great for soloing in just about any style of music.
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James Ives

 

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Post  Posted 12 Mar 2015 6:33 pm     Thanks
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Thanks guys and gals. I went with the D
Jim
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 12 Mar 2015 8:00 pm    
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Why don't they put 11 strings in the C6 neck so people can have both?
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Mike DiAlesandro


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Post  Posted 13 Mar 2015 4:39 am    
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Jack Stoner wrote:
G

Herby Wallace used the G. Herby didn't miss anything by not having the D string.


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Rick Barnhart


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Post  Posted 13 Mar 2015 4:44 am    
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James Ives wrote:
Is it Overall, better to have a G or D on the first string?
Thanks,
Jim


Jim Cohen wrote:
Absolutely.


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