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Josh Yenne


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Post  Posted 7 Jun 2019 12:36 pm    
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Particularly the part at 1:40 on the right channel?

https://youtu.be/bQyBnSM0bLE

It just doesnt sound like a regular steel in regular tuning.. or is my ear just deceiving me?

Who's the steel player on most of this Marty Stuart stuff anyone know?
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Josh Yenne


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Post  Posted 7 Jun 2019 2:31 pm    
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well i couldn't help myself and started looking at it... is it Gary Hogue on steel? anyone know his Copedent? was there a minor third change in there somewhere? that phrase is so weir and i found a place to play it but it cant be that.....
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Josh Yenne


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Post  Posted 7 Jun 2019 2:42 pm    
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probably something obviously im missing but i only had 5 minutes so..hopefully tomorrow!
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Dennis Brion


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Post  Posted 7 Jun 2019 3:09 pm    
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Sounded like two different leads at the same time...Tele and a steel to me
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Dale Rivard


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Post  Posted 7 Jun 2019 3:12 pm    
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I'm hearing 15th fret, lower 5th string a whole tone, play strings 4 & 5 then release. Repeat.
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Roger Rettig


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Post  Posted 7 Jun 2019 3:15 pm    
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Sounds like a 'Franklin' pedal drop on the middle strings to me.
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Josh Yenne


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Post  Posted 7 Jun 2019 5:14 pm    
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There s lot of minor 3rd in that phrase.
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Roger Dillingham


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Post  Posted 7 Jun 2019 5:42 pm     Marty Stuart Steel Player
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Hey guys, I am probably wrong...but it seemed to me that Marty did an album with the great Ralph Mooney around this time period. Could be that the "Moon" was cutting this track with him. I don't know about the entire album, but if you listen closely to the moves on the pedals it sounds like something that "Moon" may have done. He was very creative, but still had a distinctive sound didn't he? A legend on Pedal Steel!! Roger Smile
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Jim Fogarty


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Post  Posted 7 Jun 2019 7:55 pm    
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Moon's on this album......but just on "Crazy Arms"

Other steels players on the album:

Tommy White

Gary Carter

Robby Turner

Kayton Roberts

Fred Newell (??? is that a mistake credit? doe she play steel, too?)
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b0b


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Post  Posted 7 Jun 2019 9:23 pm    
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Josh, I have pedal that lowers my 5th string a half step. Releasing it quickly gives a similar effect. If it lowered a full step, it would sound just like what I'm hearing in that track. I haven't tried a Franklin pedal, but I bet that's what it is.
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Frank Freniere


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Post  Posted 8 Jun 2019 3:46 am    
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Jim Fogarty wrote:
Moon's on this album......but just on "Crazy Arms"

Other steels players on the album:

Tommy White

Gary Carter

Robby Turner

Kayton Roberts

Fred Newell (??? is that a mistake credit? doe she play steel, too?)


Fred was touring in Shooter Jennings’s band a couple of years ago, playing a GFI I believe.
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Jack Stoner


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Post  Posted 8 Jun 2019 4:38 am    
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Sounds like Marty and his Telecaster with "bender" changes. I heard him on a recent show and he nailed Mooney pedal steel licks with it.
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Josh Yenne


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Post  Posted 8 Jun 2019 10:06 am    
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yea theres some guitar in there too... the thing is is that it is most definitely a minor third down... which could be a pedal and a half step move with the bar... and the harmony up top COULD be an open string.... i haven't got back to it but I did find A WAY to play it but i sure dont think its HIS WAY.

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Josh Yenne


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Post  Posted 8 Jun 2019 10:07 am    
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truthfully it was hard to tell if its even a pedal steel. it COULD be a guitar with a bender on it for sure.. thats part of the reason I was asking.. it doesn't quite sound like a regular steel... the range seems low so it might be a guitar sort of thing...
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Fred Treece


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Post  Posted 9 Jun 2019 9:14 am    
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Jack Stoner wrote:
Sounds like Marty and his Telecaster with "bender" changes. I heard him on a recent show and he nailed Mooney pedal steel licks with it.

Yep. Sounds like his Clarence guitar.
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Jim Fogarty


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Post  Posted 9 Jun 2019 6:04 pm    
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I don't think it's his B Bender. There's some parts (like the first and last lick) where you can obviously hear the slide. Also a different tonality.......plus there's live footage of them playing it, and Kenny Vaughn takes a solo, sounding nothing like the record (even though Marty is playing Clarence)

I think it's steel, with some open strings in the licks and the change bOb describes.
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Fred Treece


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Post  Posted 9 Jun 2019 8:47 pm    
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On second listen, yeah there is some obvious slide. The song is G, the open strings I’m hearing are G and D. Most E9’s can do that; only a high-strung Tele can. The song is very Waylon, and his long time steeler Robby Turner is listed in the credits. It’s probably him. There’s only one Tele player in the known universe that can play slide and B-bend like we’re hearing on this tune, but his name isn’t on the list.

I love all that Roy Nichols/James Burton style chuckin pluckin cotton pickin git-tar stuff too🤠
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Godfrey Arthur


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Post  Posted 14 Jun 2019 2:26 pm    
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Other link, video is gone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQfKPlzXnL8

Sounds like Tele's to me.

The recording wasn't mono-checked. The guitar disappears if not in stereo.
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Paul McEvoy


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Post  Posted 15 Jun 2019 4:02 am    
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Fred Treece wrote:
On second listen, yeah there is some obvious slide. The song is G, the open strings I’m hearing are G and D. Most E9’s can do that; only a high-strung Tele can. The song is very Waylon, and his long time steeler Robby Turner is listed in the credits. It’s probably him. There’s only one Tele player in the known universe that can play slide and B-bend like we’re hearing on this tune, but his name isn’t on the list.

I love all that Roy Nichols/James Burton style chuckin pluckin cotton pickin git-tar stuff too🤠


Who is this unnamed b bender player?
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Fred Treece


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Post  Posted 15 Jun 2019 7:10 am    
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Paul McEvoy wrote:
Who is this unnamed b bender player?

Will Ray.
I meant to mention the name in the post. I guess something came up Oh Well
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Ron Pruter


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Post  Posted 15 Jun 2019 7:49 pm    
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99% sure it's a b bender. You can hear it fly past the center as it pans back to it's left position after the solo. RP
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Rick Bernauer


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Post  Posted 16 Jun 2019 3:13 pm    
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If Fred Treece is correct and this is Will Ray playing then that answers the question. Will has a G&L Signature model B-Bender guitar AND plays with finger "slide rings" (sometimes on both hands). Not something most of us can do - but I think that could be what's going on.

Will Ray Slide Rings - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFmHAmkNdzU

Will Ray Signature B-Bender Guitar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wJGzCtdsS4
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