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Nate Hofer


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2013 7:34 am    
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I was gonna wait to post this after tabbing it out but after seeing Bob Russell's post today I got all excited had to get on board because I just I worked on this last night:
http://woodshedsteel.wordpress.com/2013/11/22/all-aboard-the-blue-train/
Just the melody. And anyway I have no idea when I'll get around to finally tabbing it.
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2013 7:42 am    
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Nate, first I'm glad to see someone else using this tuning. Sounds nice!

I think you are playing a C-7 chord instead of Eb-7. It still works, as it would be Ebmi6, but you're missing the b3 and b7 of the I chord.

If you had a Freeze pedal, you could freeze that last melody note and play the chord under it. I love playing around with that pedal.
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Nate Hofer


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2013 8:07 am    
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Yup. The one thing I failed but intended to post was that I especially need help with those chord voicings. Mike, that input is exactly was I was looking for. I'll take a closer look tonight. Let me know of anything else suspect you notice too.
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2013 8:27 am    
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Cool! Nice rich tone too, Nate.
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Nate Hofer


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2013 8:47 am    
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Thanks for the listen guys. It's a big deal to me. I claim no expertise at music. I'm here to learn.
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Paul Arntson


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2013 1:53 pm    
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Great tune! I love the tone, too.
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Nate Hofer


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2013 5:42 pm    
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Thanks Paul and Andy. As far as tone I'll say part of it is in my right hand technique (via Jeff Newman vids) and the other part is GarageBand vintage amp settings and compression.
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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2013 9:15 pm    
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Mike Neer wrote:
Nate, first I'm glad to see someone else using this tuning. Sounds nice!

I think you are playing a C-7 chord instead of Eb-7. It still works, as it would be Ebmi6, but you're missing the b3 and b7 of the I chord.

If you had a Freeze pedal, you could freeze that last melody note and play the chord under it. I love playing around with that pedal.


Mike (or anyone), let's see if this is closer at all. Here's an update:
https://soundcloud.com/natehofer/blue-train-head-study-update-1

Here's how I'm voicing the chords for now. Seems closer but man it's deceptively tricky for three chords:

Ebm7
E -
C -
A 6
G 6
E 6
C 6
A -
G -

Ab6
E -
C -
A 8
G 8
E 8
C 8
A -
G -

Bb7
E -
C -
A -
G 1
E 1
C -
A 1
G -
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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2013 9:52 pm    
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Nate, my preference would be in C6/A7, low F:

x 6 (6) x 6 x 6 x (Eb-7)--you can also sneak in the major 3rd (6) to make it an Eb7#9.

x x 5 x 5 x 5 x (Ab13)

x x 1 x 1 x 1 x (Bb7#9)

On Coltrane's recording, you can hear the piano is playing Ab13b5 for the IV chord. BTW, the tune has more of a dominant sound to me than minor, so I think the I chord is Eb7, not Eb-7.
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Nate Hofer


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Post  Posted 23 Nov 2013 11:53 am    
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Okay, Mike! This is super-helpful and much appreciated.

• Eb7#9 with the major 3rd now makes more sense

• Ab13b5 I played as: x (5) 5 x 5 x 5 x
I put the b5 on the low A string. And using the 5th fret for an Ab position is brilliant!) So really I just moved the chord shape back one fret (from 6 to 5) - all four notes! Is this right? Can I do that? Smile

Update:
https://soundcloud.com/natehofer/blue-train-head-study-update-2
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Jonathan Lam


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Post  Posted 23 Nov 2013 5:50 pm    
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Nice work!
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