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Topic: Cma11 Tuning |
Michael James
From: La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Fred Bova
From: Connecticut, USA
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Michael James
From: La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Jay Fagerlie
From: Lotus, California, USA
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Posted 16 Aug 2013 4:55 am
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Best .Topic . Ever
...yet another example of the awesomeness of the Steel Guitar Forum!
Thanks to all!
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Fred Bova
From: Connecticut, USA
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Posted 16 Aug 2013 5:35 am
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Yes, that's my 8 string tuning, No Pedals. I believe it was "bobb" that named it for me.
It is a "scale " a Hexatonic Scale .
6 notes.
Similar to. G Major scale, BUT no 2nd, no A.
When I truncate it to 6 string, the Diatonic bass notes on the 6th string D changes.
I skip the D, use a C for the 6th string, and there is no B.
I retune the 6th to a C, D, B depending on the song.
It is usually a C in the 6 string version.
The 8 string diatonic basses, strings 5-8 = High to Low = E,D,C,B really make the tuning have lots of intervals / chords.
But if I need to work with only 6 strings the = High to Low = f#, d, b, G, E, C works well most of the time. |
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Mike Neer
From: NJ
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Posted 16 Aug 2013 5:40 am
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That's cool, Michael. But without a major second interval in there, it's not really something I can use.
Cool video, Doug!
I tried coming up with tunings forever in the beginning until I just bit the bullet and learned the traditional tunings. Coming from that perspective, I feel like I have a greater understanding of what I need from a new tuning to make it work (and by the way, I spend a considerable amount of time trying to devise new tunings almost every day).
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Last edited by Mike Neer on 16 Aug 2013 5:40 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Fred Bova
From: Connecticut, USA
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Posted 16 Aug 2013 5:40 am
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When I play Sleepwalk on 6 String G Hexatonic I tune = High to Low =
f#
d
b
G
E
B
Last edited by Fred Bova on 16 Aug 2013 6:14 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Fred Bova
From: Connecticut, USA
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Posted 16 Aug 2013 6:12 am
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If you compare my G Hexatonic 6 string tuning to the C6, and D6 tuning you will see a lot of the string to string intervals are the same. It is the relationship of the 3rd and 4th string that is the difference.
C6. D6. G Hexatonic
e. f#. f#
c. d. d
a. b. b
G. A. G
E F#. E
C. D. C ( or B, or D )
Still a minor chord on the top 3 strings
Still a Major chord on the bottom three strings
It's a split,
D6 on the top 3
C6 on the bottom 3
But, that relationship between the 3rd and 4th strings is what Roots this in "G".
The Tonic is;
(2)=d = V
(3)=b = III
(4)=G = I = Root
I can play all the C6 stuff on strings 4, 5, 6 = note for note.
All the C6 stuff on strings 1, 2, ,3 = I play 2 frets down, but the intervals between these 3 strings is the same as C6.
Again, the Relationship between the 3rd, and 4th strings is the key to the G Hexatonic tuning.
I tune my Fender 400 8 String Pedal Steel to a D9.
With the A+B Pedals locked down you get what we like to ref to as "G6".
However, if I then de-tune my 1st string from the Pedal pulled note of "g", down 1/2 step to "f#",... I now have my G Hexatonic tuning.
G6. G Hexatonic
g. Root ~> f#. maj7
d. = d
b. = b
G. Root = G. Root
E. = E
D. = D
C. = C
B. =. B
That 1/2 step change on the 1st string avoids a Lot of Bar Position Jumps. |
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Fred Bova
From: Connecticut, USA
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Posted 16 Aug 2013 6:39 am
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My G Hexatonic tuning has helped me understand playing Pedals a lot.
As a 6 string guitarist, G6 makes more sense to me than E9 or even D9.
I decided to learn how to play without pedals and then use pedals to enhance the 6th tuning. A lot of the "Early Cats" played C6, A6, E6, G6 straight tuning before they added pedals. Mooney only pulled one string per pedal, but used both feet, and if he don't pull his 1st string, but did pull 3, and 4, he is in the Hexatonic tuning I use. |
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Randy Reeves
From: LaCrosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 16 Aug 2013 9:34 am
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Doug, very nice video demo. you have the harmonies my ear likes.
I agree, this is a good thread. |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Michael James
From: La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Michael James
From: La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Michael James
From: La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Randy Reeves
From: LaCrosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2013 6:55 am
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Mike, there link shows an empty folder or no preview. |
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Michael James
From: La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Michael James
From: La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Randy Reeves
From: LaCrosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2013 3:18 pm
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there is No Preview showing again. ...I guess you click download and ignore the no preview words. |
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Randy Reeves
From: LaCrosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Michael James
From: La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Randy Reeves
From: LaCrosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 24 Aug 2013 5:24 pm
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I missed an easy note. instead of using the slide as I had been I decided on the fly to use my finger and pick the harmonics. I half hit the note with the pick and slide.
sour. I bet I could splice in a new section. |
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Michael James
From: La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Randy Reeves
From: LaCrosse, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2013 7:14 am
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jazzy sounding chords there. |
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Michael James
From: La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
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