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Dave A. Burley


From:
Franklin, In. USA
Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 12:02 pm     Reply with quote

Just listened to John Hartford's recording of Gentle On My Mind. What a great steel break. Anyone tell me who it was? Gotta have that record.
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Joachim Kettner


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Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 12:24 pm     Reply with quote

I do not know this version.
I have a record by him called "Nobody Knows What You Do", that features Buddy Emmons on a couple of songs.
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Peter Freiberger


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California, USA
Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 12:41 pm     Reply with quote

It's Buddy Emmons. Classic tone and a burning solo.
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Dan Tyack


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Olympia, WA USA
Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 4:14 pm     Reply with quote

Buddy on the C6th. That was one of the first things I ever learned on the C6th, and I wore out the record (at half speed).
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Chris Caruso


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Merrimack, NH USA
Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 4:26 pm     Reply with quote

Can someone post a link to that?
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Dan Tyack


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Olympia, WA USA
Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 6:31 pm     Reply with quote

Here you go:

Gentle on my mind solo
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Ernie Renn


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Brainerd, Minnesota USA
Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 6:34 pm     Reply with quote

Amazing solo! Could you tab that, Dan?
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Dan Tyack


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Olympia, WA USA
Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 6:37 pm     Reply with quote

One of these years, Ernie. Smile
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Joe Goldmark


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San Francisco, CA 94131
Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 7:50 pm     Reply with quote

That's one of those "kick my steel into the Bay" solos. Amazing!

Joe
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Tony Glassman


From:
The Great Northwest
Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 8:03 pm     Reply with quote

Joe Goldmark wrote:
That's one of those "kick my steel into the Bay" solos. Amazing! Joe


Joe, can you just kick your steel (and chops) up to Oregon instead?
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Richard Sinkler


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Oakdale, California
Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 8:19 pm     Reply with quote

AAARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!! Why do I even try? Dropping my steel off the bridge tomorrow.
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Mike Neer


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Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 9:41 pm     Reply with quote

Killer solo. I'm going to transcribe it now. I'll post it up in an hour or so.
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Dan Tyack


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Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 9:52 pm     Reply with quote

Thanks Mike!

Warning: for some of the lines in there Buddy had a change which raised F->A, A->C, and C->D (essentially, a C6th with the 9th down low).
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Mike Neer


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Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 10:08 pm     Reply with quote

I figured that much, but I'll let you guys handle that part. What I'm going to do is make the 1st string D. Isn't that what Buddy uses?
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Dan Tyack


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Olympia, WA USA
Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 10:29 pm     Reply with quote

yup.

As I recall, there wasn't much pedal use in that solo.
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Mike Neer


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Post Posted 26 Jan 2011 11:17 pm     Reply with quote

Man, that was a lot of fun. This is just my first draft--maybe I'll go back and tweak it tomorrow after I shovel snow and play Wii with the boys (no school, snow day).

Thank you, Buddy, for your genius!

Maybe some of you C6 pedal players who use Buddy's tuning can chime in with some of the moves--I don't really understand that particular layout. Obviously, I didn't use any pedals.

http://www.lapsteelin.com/2011/01/27/buddy-emmons-gentle-on-my-mind-solo-transcription/
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Post Posted 27 Jan 2011 8:45 am     Reply with quote

Transcription is up.
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Jerome Hawkes


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Post Posted 27 Jan 2011 1:02 pm     Reply with quote

Hartford was a HUGE fan of BE - and he always surrounded himself with great musicians, Vassar Clemmons, Tut Taylor, Norman Blake, etc and often put them AHEAD of himself really, when asked. This is seldom done today with sidemen.

John often said he learned his unique phrasing from BE
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Bas Kapitein


From:
Holland
Post Posted 27 Jan 2011 2:29 pm     Reply with quote

In the second half of the seventies John made several records for Flying Fish. All these records are more or less in the same spirit and with almost the same crew.
Buddy is featured as a mayor player on all of them on his D-10 and S-12. Album titles are:
Nobody knows what to do
Slumbering on the Cumberland
You and me at home
All in the name of love
(are there any more?)

Tennessee Jubilee by Benny Martin features mostly the same musicians and Emmons also on dobro and in my opinion belongs to the same serie

All of these albums are great stuff for “Big E” fans, that must be all of you!
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Mike Neer


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NJ
Post Posted 27 Jan 2011 6:40 pm     Reply with quote

Fixed a typo on page 1 of the chart, in case anyone cares.

Man, I love John Hartford. I'll have to order this CD.
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Bobby Boggs


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Upstate SC.
Post Posted 27 Jan 2011 11:37 pm     Reply with quote

Well, I care. And I guess Dan's roding that big pedal change he mentioned. Smile

No really it's one of my all time favorite solos. I hacked out a version years ago when it 1st came out. I'd never heard of the pedal changes Dan mentioned at that time. Maybe that was a good thing. I'd have used the old. ( That's not on my guitar) excuse. And never tried.

I can see where lowering the middle E to D will come in handy. My printers down. So I'll write it out and maybe learn it with all the right notes Very Happy this weekend.

Thanks again. I for one appreciate your efforts.
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Dan Tyack


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Olympia, WA USA
Post Posted 28 Jan 2011 5:14 am     Reply with quote

Very cool, Mike!
Thanks!
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Jerry Erickson


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Atlanta,IL 61723
Post Posted 28 Jan 2011 6:48 am     Reply with quote

Thanks Mike! It's a great version of the song. I really love what Kenny Malone played on drums. Buddy played on a few Hartford albums from this era, all with some amazing soloing. I'll have to dig them out and give them a listen.
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Ray Mangrum


From:
Tennessee, USA
Post Posted 28 Jan 2011 8:04 am     Gentle on my Mind Reply with quote

Thank You for the Tab. Never paid much attention to No Pedal work, but this one opened my eyes. Great Job. Ray Smile Smile
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Joachim Kettner


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Germany
Post Posted 30 Jan 2011 8:31 am     Reply with quote

http://mbcvoice.tistory.com/entry/John-Hartford-Same1969
The link above plays 4 songs from an album by him from '69.
No steel guitar, but lots of beautiful string and brass arrangements.
Close the other mp3's because they start playing at the same time!
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