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Tor Arve Baroy


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Post  Posted 5 Feb 2010 6:47 am    
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCvehhsS580

From the record L.A. Turnaround by Bert Jansch 1973. With Red Rhodes on Pedal Steel. Producer Mike Nesmith.
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Rick Batey


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Post  Posted 5 Feb 2010 7:09 am    
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A wonderful Bert Jansch song, a unique and totally complementary pedal steel part... one of my all-time favourites.

Love the ZB and the Twin, too.
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 5 Feb 2010 9:15 am    
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I wonder if this is just the rehearsal, or if it is the final cut on the record? What a lovely song!
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Paul Frank Bloomfield


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Post  Posted 5 Feb 2010 12:55 pm    
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That ZB looks suspiciously like the green one he left
with Eric Snowball back in the early '70's, you can
clearly see that the neck he's playing is keyless,
I've mentioned this on the Forum before, I believe
it was made especially for him by ZB and Pete
Wilshire ended up with it I believe.
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Jonathan Shacklock


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Post  Posted 5 Feb 2010 2:43 pm    
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Thanks for posting! Smile
I followed the link and there's even more of Red and Bert including them playing bar billiards in a pub and, heavens above, a young lady taking a keen interest in Red's ZB. Whoa!

http://www.youtube.com/user/schaaapje123#p/u/3/xE4CtLBGKnQ
http://www.youtube.com/user/schaaapje123#p/u/4/hn2wYecTJFU

I'm pretty sure these are the final album cuts from the album (LA Turnaround) just reissued last year.
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Kevin Hatton


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Post  Posted 5 Feb 2010 4:03 pm    
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Yes, Red was a ZB player. You can here the classic ZB tone in those clips. One of my favorite players.
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Ken Byng


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Post  Posted 6 Feb 2010 3:51 am    
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Frank
That is almost certainly the same guitar that Eric got in. Very strange tuning at the time, a diatonic tuning. I couldn't get much out of it at the time. Red had put a couple of mods on the guitar if I remember rightly.

Ken
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Mike Holder


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Post  Posted 6 Feb 2010 9:47 am     Red Rhodes
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If anyone has heard a record by Ian Mathews titled "Valley Hi" you will hear Red at his best. Seven Bridges Road & Propinquity are on this record,
Brilliant playing!
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Bas Kapitein


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Post  Posted 6 Feb 2010 12:10 pm    
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Yes Paul and yes Ken, that is the "one of a kind" ZB with one keyless and one keyed neck I sat behind in Eric Snowballs shop.

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=140326&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

How nice that after almost 40 years I get to talk to people who had that same experience.

I found the picture my girlfriend took with me sitting behind it. I couldnt get a note out of it, but I always thought that this was a mayor step into the universal direction. I am curious if the "ZB freaks" (nothing unfriendly ment) know more about it.
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Paul Frank Bloomfield


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Post  Posted 6 Feb 2010 11:45 pm    
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Hallo Bas
I'm glad that you and Ken can remember that ZB, I thought I was going nuts and had imagined it ! Lets
see the photo you have of it so we can all have a
closer look at it. I have this photo which I have
posted before of Pete Wilshire playing it on some early
TV show, Ken, what what his tuning ?
All the best, Frank. Corfu

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Jason Odd


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Post  Posted 7 Feb 2010 3:39 pm    
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The footage and the album that resulted from the sessions were from 1974.
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Bas Kapitein


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Post  Posted 8 Feb 2010 1:08 pm    
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Here it is Paul,
Obviously it is not green, but that's Eric's shop! and that's a double neck with different keyheads
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Jason Odd


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Post  Posted 9 Feb 2010 5:59 am    
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Oh, I seem to have lost part of my post before.


I meant to go on to say that the files listed these as 1973, but they're definately from '74, and Nez even notes the year.

The full 13 min doco is a bonus with the CD reissue of L.A. Turnaround and as as a bonus disc with the LP reissue, all through the US based indie label Drag City.
I actually don't have a copy yet, I knew it was due last year, but had lost track of it, and sure enough it's out in CD and LP format.
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Paul Frank Bloomfield


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Post  Posted 9 Feb 2010 12:42 pm    
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Hallo Bas, yes ,you are correct, it most certainly is'nt green as I thought ( Must be old age !) but a
great photo of Red's ZB all the same !
Also a of Eric's show room, always reminded me of
Alladin's cave, spent many a Saturday in there !
All the best
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Ken Mizell


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Post  Posted 12 Feb 2010 9:29 pm    
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Here's some more more superb playing by Red:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBtzgxU8LrY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4AgZ1nHjHM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Druc056btKQ

That is some mighty fine playing. I really like the tunes and singing too, but Red really shines on this stuff.

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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 29 Oct 2010 11:13 pm    
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Ther was a band called Chilli Willi And The Red Hot Peppers... Red Rhodes played on a few tracks on their album "Bongos Over Ballham". This song is called "We Get Along". And nice B- Bender playing from Martin Stone who is now a famous book scout.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzIgbzJMKpQ&feature=related
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 22 May 2014 7:33 am    
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Here's another one from that era. At least it sounds like Red.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4BDyjoKT7A
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Bas Kapitein


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Post  Posted 22 May 2014 12:08 pm    
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I hear what you mean There are some signature changes but I have my doubts, Herb Steiner might know.

Bas
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Donny Hinson


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Post  Posted 27 May 2014 6:09 pm    
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This is my favorite thing with Red Rhodes. Both the intro simplicity and backup work are genius; a beautiful compromise between "just one note" and gross overplaying. His backup is often right over the singing, but it's never obtrusive - proof that a skilled player who knows how to use dynamics can break the rules, and enhance the song! Wink


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydNvjQTRSlU

Very Happy


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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 27 May 2014 6:15 pm    
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I saw Red when he was with Michael Nesmith and he wasn't playing a Zb. I would have remembered that as I was playing a ZB at the time. I want to say it was a Sierra, but memory isn't what it used to be.
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Larry Behm


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Post  Posted 27 May 2014 6:30 pm    
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He played a 22" scale Sierra in his later years. I worked at Sierra and had a chance to talk at great length with him.

One time in St Louis he showed me where he had put a 5/16 to 3/8 rod under the guitar from end to end with a standoff in the middle. Wow sounded great.

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Jack Aldrich


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Post  Posted 29 May 2014 8:57 am    
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When Red played with Mike Nesmith at McCabe's in the early 70's, he played a Fndeer 400, originally a lefty but converted by Red with cables replaced with pushrods, again by Red himself. When I asked him why, he replied that it had the best tone of any steel he had ever played. I bought my first ShoBud from him in 1976 at Red's Royal Amplifier Repair in Hollywood. He had about 20 pedal steels in his shop.
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Mike Holder


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Post  Posted 29 May 2014 1:20 pm    
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Red also played a great solo on "The Wear & The Tear On My Mind" on Dominic Troiano's solo album which dates very early 70's.
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Dave Zirbel


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Post  Posted 30 May 2014 11:02 am    
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkI1YTPYRbk

Reds Fender sounds KILLER!! Dig the striped bell bottoms and polka dot tie! Very Happy
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Jack Aldrich


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Post  Posted 31 May 2014 8:59 am    
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Dave Zirbel wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkI1YTPYRbk

Reds Fender sounds KILLER!! Dig the striped bell bottoms and polka dot tie! Very Happy

That's the Fender I was talking about!
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