Too many years of loud music and shotguns (not at the same venues!) have done a number on my ears.
Tinnitus (Ringing Ears)
Moderators: Dave Mudgett, Brad Bechtel
-
Lee Baucum
- Posts: 10859
- Joined: 11 Apr 1999 12:01 am
- Location: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
- State/Province: Texas
- Country: United States
Tinnitus (Ringing Ears)
Have any of you folks found any over-the-counter products that help?
Too many years of loud music and shotguns (not at the same venues!) have done a number on my ears.
Too many years of loud music and shotguns (not at the same venues!) have done a number on my ears.
Lee, from South Texas - Down On The Rio Grande
There are only two options as I see it.
Either I'm right, or there is a sinister conspiracy to conceal the fact that I'm right.
Williams Keyless S-10, BMI S-10, Evans FET-500LV, Fender Steel King, 2 Roland Cube 80XL's,
Sarno FreeLoader, Goodrich Passive Volume Pedals, Vintage ACE Pack-A-Seat
There are only two options as I see it.
Either I'm right, or there is a sinister conspiracy to conceal the fact that I'm right.
Williams Keyless S-10, BMI S-10, Evans FET-500LV, Fender Steel King, 2 Roland Cube 80XL's,
Sarno FreeLoader, Goodrich Passive Volume Pedals, Vintage ACE Pack-A-Seat
-
Stu Schulman
- Posts: 6523
- Joined: 15 Oct 1998 12:01 am
- Location: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
- State/Province: -
- Country: United States
Lee,From what I know Lloyd Green is an expert on this,His actually went away...Maybe somehow you can get in touch with him?
Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952.
-
chas smith R.I.P.
- Posts: 5043
- Joined: 28 Feb 2001 1:01 am
- Location: Encino, CA, USA
- State/Province: -
- Country: United States
I don't think that anything short of hearing aids is going to work. I have 40 years in front of JBL's, and on motorcycles, 30+ in the welding/machine shops, even though I wore earphones and plugs. I used to get harassed for wearing earphones, curiously enough, until I reminded them that I also had the torch...
I work with a guitar player, who has it so bad, that if there's a loud boom or crack, his tinnitus goes into oscillation for a while, and he can't hear anything.
Forget conversations in restaurants.
I work with a guitar player, who has it so bad, that if there's a loud boom or crack, his tinnitus goes into oscillation for a while, and he can't hear anything.
Forget conversations in restaurants.
-
Bent Romnes
- Posts: 5985
- Joined: 28 Feb 2007 2:35 pm
- Location: London,Ontario, Canada
- State/Province: -
- Country: United States
Lee,
I have that problem. As we speak, I have a very high pitched ringing in my ears. I have some hearing loss due to working around heavy equipment all my life(ear muffs etc only gives limited protection).
The specialist that examined me said that the ringing is due to the hearing loss. He also informed me that hearing aids might correct the problem a little bit. But it will always be with me. My hearing isn't bad enough to warrant hearing aids - yet.
I think the same problem occurs with musicians and loud music. Shucks, I remember when attending Jeff Newman's seminars, he played so loud that my ears actually hurt.
I have that problem. As we speak, I have a very high pitched ringing in my ears. I have some hearing loss due to working around heavy equipment all my life(ear muffs etc only gives limited protection).
The specialist that examined me said that the ringing is due to the hearing loss. He also informed me that hearing aids might correct the problem a little bit. But it will always be with me. My hearing isn't bad enough to warrant hearing aids - yet.
I think the same problem occurs with musicians and loud music. Shucks, I remember when attending Jeff Newman's seminars, he played so loud that my ears actually hurt.
-
John Roche
- Posts: 2212
- Joined: 2 Feb 2006 1:01 am
- Location: England
- State/Province: -
- Country: United States
-
Lee Baucum
- Posts: 10859
- Joined: 11 Apr 1999 12:01 am
- Location: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
- State/Province: Texas
- Country: United States
I've been to both an audiologist and an ENT specialist. The audiologist wants to sell me some expensive in-ear masking devices. The doctor says there is nothing that can be done.
I'm wondering about some of the homeopathic and herbal products that are out there. I'm also curious to know what Lloyd Green did, if anyone has a way to contact him.
John - My ringing isn't just one pitch. It's more like a bunch of crickets and tree frogs.
Lee
I'm wondering about some of the homeopathic and herbal products that are out there. I'm also curious to know what Lloyd Green did, if anyone has a way to contact him.
John - My ringing isn't just one pitch. It's more like a bunch of crickets and tree frogs.
Lee
-
Greg Cutshaw
- Posts: 6821
- Joined: 17 Nov 1998 1:01 am
- Location: Corry, PA, USA
- State/Province: -
- Country: United States
I quit playing out about the time I noticed I was going half deaf. Ringing in my ears, really loud. And I couldn't understand what anyone was saying unless I was watching their lips. At about age 40 I quit playing in bands and started wearing hearing protection at work. After about 14 years, the ringing is very minor and I can easily hear people talking even in crowded rooms. In a quiet room I can still hear some ringing but it's very low and not at all annoying. I do occasionally crank up the amp or the home theater for an hour or two but my ears only ring for a few hours after that then go back to normal again. Another thing I do now, is to NOT set my amp right next to my ears when practicing.
Wearing hearing protection, getting out of loud bands, and giving it a few years has given me my ears back for the most part and getting most of my hearing back is PRICELESS to my sanity!
Greg
Wearing hearing protection, getting out of loud bands, and giving it a few years has given me my ears back for the most part and getting most of my hearing back is PRICELESS to my sanity!
Greg
-
chris ivey
- Posts: 12703
- Joined: 8 Nov 1998 1:01 am
- Location: california (deceased)
- State/Province: -
- Country: United States
i've been ringing for twenty years. as i understand it, the cilia (?) 'hairs in your ears' have gotten knocked flat and don't repair themselves. i always thought if i could develop a cilia rake to make them stand back up , i'm a rich man! but in the meantime, my ears are ringing. i'd be curious to know what lloyd has to say, also!
-
Gary Preston
- Posts: 3998
- Joined: 8 Apr 2003 12:01 am
- Location: Columbus, Ohio, USA
- State/Province: Ohio
- Country: United States
-
Les Green
- Posts: 555
- Joined: 5 Apr 1999 12:01 am
- Location: Jefferson City, MO, R.I.P.
- State/Province: -
- Country: United States
Lee,
After 50+ years of guitars, varmint hunting (4 legged types) and 40 years of working around Web Presses and other large machines, I have it very bad in both ears. Never quits. I've been to Doctors and more Doctors and taken all kinds of herbal treatments and nothing has diminished it. The Doctors all said nothing could be done. I even went to a chiropractor who said he could cure it. He failed also, so now I've just learned to live with it. Now if I'm around any kind of loud noise, for instance mowing grass, I wear hearing protectors. Hearing aids do nothing for it either. I just try and ignore it. One of mine is tuned in E but the other one is about a 1/4 of a fret lower!
After 50+ years of guitars, varmint hunting (4 legged types) and 40 years of working around Web Presses and other large machines, I have it very bad in both ears. Never quits. I've been to Doctors and more Doctors and taken all kinds of herbal treatments and nothing has diminished it. The Doctors all said nothing could be done. I even went to a chiropractor who said he could cure it. He failed also, so now I've just learned to live with it. Now if I'm around any kind of loud noise, for instance mowing grass, I wear hearing protectors. Hearing aids do nothing for it either. I just try and ignore it. One of mine is tuned in E but the other one is about a 1/4 of a fret lower!
Les Green
73 MSA D10 8&4, 74 MSA S10 3&5, Legrande II 8&9, Fender Squier 6 string, Genesis III, Peavey 1000
73 MSA D10 8&4, 74 MSA S10 3&5, Legrande II 8&9, Fender Squier 6 string, Genesis III, Peavey 1000
-
Rick Abbott
- Posts: 2215
- Joined: 20 Feb 2007 4:10 pm
- Location: Indiana, USA
- State/Province: Indiana
- Country: United States
The secretary I worked with a couple of years ago developed tinitus fron high blood-pressure. Is yours ok? She was being driven mad by it it was so bad. She had never been around loud stuff. I guess it could be that we (I have some too) get it from the loud music, guns and machines, but maybe blood pressure could make us more prone? If my ears are hissing extra loud I usually check my BP, it is usually elevated at those times. Oh, yeah, red wine makes 'em ring too
So much for being a wino!
RICK ABBOTT
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Sehy #112
1975 Peavey Pacer 1963 Gibson Falcon
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Sehy #112
1975 Peavey Pacer 1963 Gibson Falcon
-
Gary Preston
- Posts: 3998
- Joined: 8 Apr 2003 12:01 am
- Location: Columbus, Ohio, USA
- State/Province: Ohio
- Country: United States
-
Lee Baucum
- Posts: 10859
- Joined: 11 Apr 1999 12:01 am
- Location: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
- State/Province: Texas
- Country: United States
Actually, I've got really low blood pressure. I see a dentist several times per year. He always checks my BP and jokes about checking to see if I'm still alive or not.
I stay away from caffeine, aspirin, and red wine. I wear ear plugs when using the lawn mower and leaf blower. Musician's earplugs when playing with a band, which isn't very often.
I stay away from caffeine, aspirin, and red wine. I wear ear plugs when using the lawn mower and leaf blower. Musician's earplugs when playing with a band, which isn't very often.
-
Earnest Bovine
- Posts: 8374
- Joined: 4 Aug 1998 11:00 pm
- Location: Los Angeles CA USA
- State/Province: -
- Country: United States
-
Tommy R. Butler
- Posts: 1472
- Joined: 19 Dec 2005 1:01 am
- Location: Nashville, Tennessee
- State/Province: Tennessee
- Country: United States
Heres something kinda pathetic but true.. You know how when people are intoxicated its harder for them to get hurt from a fall, car accident or whatever... Well believe it or not the musicians I know that drink or get high while they are playing or before they play have not experienced this problem.. Now some one explain that !!!!!!!!
All them old rockers for example... None of them are def... Do what now ???
All them old rockers for example... None of them are def... Do what now ???
-
Bent Romnes
- Posts: 5985
- Joined: 28 Feb 2007 2:35 pm
- Location: London,Ontario, Canada
- State/Province: -
- Country: United States
-
John Billings
- Posts: 9344
- Joined: 11 Jul 2002 12:01 am
- Location: Ohio, USA
- State/Province: Ohio
- Country: United States
Bent, mine is extremely high-pitched also. Funny thing, when I got a hearing test they told me I had lost my ability to hear high pitches. But, that's where the tinnitus is. Right ear, beeps. Left ear the sound is steady, but sometimes goes up and down in pitch. It's actually louder than people speak! So, I nod a lot. Tried all kinds of cures. Herbal, acupuncture. Nothing works. Cilia are shot too. Maybe I should pour Minoxodil in my ears!
I'm convinced the worst damage was from playing on small stages. We were never that loud. But there was always a drummer's ride cymbal in one ear or the other.
I'm convinced the worst damage was from playing on small stages. We were never that loud. But there was always a drummer's ride cymbal in one ear or the other.
-
Bob Hickish
- Posts: 2283
- Joined: 23 Feb 2004 1:01 am
- Location: Port Ludlow, Washington, USA, R.I.P.
- State/Province: -
- Country: United States
Lee
I know this is not a funny subject -- one of
the best fiddle players I ever heard had to quit
because of this .
I too have the problem , but it has come to where
I can ignore it and I don't hear it -- the funny part is
reading your post brings it out -- I guess when you
think about it one tends to focus on it .
keep your sense of humor and adapt -- or you
can try this
http://www.zazzle.com/does_the_noise_in ... 4294958512
Hick
I know this is not a funny subject -- one of
the best fiddle players I ever heard had to quit
because of this .
I too have the problem , but it has come to where
I can ignore it and I don't hear it -- the funny part is
reading your post brings it out -- I guess when you
think about it one tends to focus on it .
keep your sense of humor and adapt -- or you
can try this
http://www.zazzle.com/does_the_noise_in ... 4294958512
Hick
-
Les Green
- Posts: 555
- Joined: 5 Apr 1999 12:01 am
- Location: Jefferson City, MO, R.I.P.
- State/Province: -
- Country: United States
Bent R.
It can be done. Ain't easy 'tho. I actually did check mine once with an old pitch pipe and came up with an "E". Very handy for both E9th and C6th. Just have to remember which ear is a 1/4 fret lower.
It can be done. Ain't easy 'tho. I actually did check mine once with an old pitch pipe and came up with an "E". Very handy for both E9th and C6th. Just have to remember which ear is a 1/4 fret lower.
Les Green
73 MSA D10 8&4, 74 MSA S10 3&5, Legrande II 8&9, Fender Squier 6 string, Genesis III, Peavey 1000
73 MSA D10 8&4, 74 MSA S10 3&5, Legrande II 8&9, Fender Squier 6 string, Genesis III, Peavey 1000
-
Dan Murphy
- Posts: 426
- Joined: 25 Nov 2008 3:30 pm
- Location: Missouri, USA
- State/Province: Missouri
- Country: United States
-
Greg Cutshaw
- Posts: 6821
- Joined: 17 Nov 1998 1:01 am
- Location: Corry, PA, USA
- State/Province: -
- Country: United States
The fiddle is a killer on my ears to this day. An accoustic fiddle, even the vibrations coming up through my face, makes my ears hurt. I can plug in my electric fiddle and listen to it through the headphones with no problem. Telling all this to a younger person just starting out is usually met with.....deaf ears.
Greg
Greg
-
Eric Philippsen
- Posts: 2068
- Joined: 14 Jan 2008 5:38 pm
- Location: Central Florida USA
- State/Province: Florida
- Country: United States
I have tinnitus. I live with it 24-7.
There is no doubt in my mind that all those nights and years in front of a 100-watt Marshall contributed to it. I have a drop in my hearing right at the frequency of guitar. Like I said, I live with it.
I have a brother who is an ENT - an ear, nose, and throat surgeon. He knows everything about how hearing works. He's filled me in. He tells me true and gives it to me straight. No BS.
But, you know, I don't beat myself up over it. What's the use of doing that? It's not going to change what is. I keep playing. Amazingly, while I have trouble hearing conversations in a crowded room, I can hear the most minute parts and tones of a recording that's background music in a crowded room. Go figure.
There is no doubt in my mind that all those nights and years in front of a 100-watt Marshall contributed to it. I have a drop in my hearing right at the frequency of guitar. Like I said, I live with it.
I have a brother who is an ENT - an ear, nose, and throat surgeon. He knows everything about how hearing works. He's filled me in. He tells me true and gives it to me straight. No BS.
But, you know, I don't beat myself up over it. What's the use of doing that? It's not going to change what is. I keep playing. Amazingly, while I have trouble hearing conversations in a crowded room, I can hear the most minute parts and tones of a recording that's background music in a crowded room. Go figure.
-
Pete Woronowski
- Posts: 253
- Joined: 24 May 2008 7:48 pm
- Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
- State/Province: -
- Country: United States
It is a drag for sure, I have had it for about 10 years.
Too many years of loud stage volumes without ear protection.
Cutting down on caffine has helped quite a bit and lowered my amp to the floor as opposed to on top of the road cases.
Wish I had used ear protection now for sure.
Take Care, Pete
Too many years of loud stage volumes without ear protection.
Cutting down on caffine has helped quite a bit and lowered my amp to the floor as opposed to on top of the road cases.
Wish I had used ear protection now for sure.
Take Care, Pete
Mullen Royal Precision
-
Donald Dykes
- Posts: 74
- Joined: 15 Nov 2006 1:01 am
- Location: Natchitoches Louisiana, USA
- State/Province: Louisiana
- Country: United States
ringing ears
I have had this for years and it is really bad when it is real quiet. There is a medecine that is a supplement of some sort i just got it but i haven't tried it yet the name of it is LIPO-FLAVONOID it is supposed to help tenites you can find it at most drug stores. try it it can't hurt anything.Someone let me know if it helps.
Donald
Donald
-
Papa Joe Pollick
- Posts: 1968
- Joined: 4 Mar 2005 1:01 am
- Location: Swanton, Ohio
- State/Province: Ohio
- Country: United States