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Topic: Important notice!! Disks not tapes. |
Joe Butcher
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 6:52 am |
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You guy shoulda been saying this about 8 years ago.
I recently ordered a Paul Franklin course (which I still havent recieved after 4 weeks) that was dissapointingly on VHS. No big deal thoguh, I have a VCR, but its much more convienent when you can FFWD chapters on a DVD. |
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 7:34 am
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Poor quality has little to do with format. If producers use lousy mics - either digital or analog - then the audio quality is gonna be lousy. But I think it's dead wrong to think that one can't make good quality analog recordings. I'm not against digital at all - it has advantages, and I honestly doubt much of anybody is producing new material on VHS or cassettes. But again - you can digitize modern analog recordings easily and cheaply. Edited to add: Ernest Cawby just started a thread on this - http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=985685
The way digital right management is going, some of you may come to appreciate analog formats again. Like when they start moving to a pay-per-view approach, which is where I sense the large media conglomerates want to move it.
All my opinions, of course. |
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James Cann
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Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 12:58 pm
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.......you do understand that you must buy a high definition TV before March 2008 right?
"we gotta move these refrigerators, we gotta move these color TVs." |
God bless(?) the lemmings on their unending march to the sea! |
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 5:59 pm
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All future recordings should be on MiniDisks or Betamax...  |
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Al Collinsworth
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 2:26 am Notice
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| I use a Sony mini-disk unit. I really like it. |
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Nic du Toit
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Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 2:46 am
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B0B,
Cds that still appear in good condition, but just don't want to play can be salvaged......I've been able to re-surrect many a CD. So, if any of you have a favorite CD that won't play, you can use certain software (Digital extraction ) to burn a new one. Or, contact me and we'll make a plan.
For information; on my 'Teach' Cds I've inserted track markers after every two measures to allow you to flip backwards and forwards until you get the hang of any section before moving on.
Regards,
Nic du Toit
    
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David L. Donald
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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 5:57 am
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If it ain't recorded direct to disc;
Edison Tube discs,
it ain't gonna get played here. 
None of those new fangled wire recorders for me!
3" reels, at 1 7/8 FPM
Magnatizm! HAH! can't be a good development
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 7:03 am
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| you do understand that you must buy a high definition TV before March 2008 right |
That is not correct.
The deadline for conversion to all-digital *broadcast* is February 17, 2009.
"Digital" does NOT mean High Definition. DVD's are (for the most part) not High-Definition, but are a digital medium.
Also, ALL your old TV's will work fine (if you really want them to...) - by the deadline you just need a digital-to-analog converter box, essentially the same size (and what will replace) your set-top box if you have premium cable channels, satellite, or fiberoptic.
We have Verizon's FIOS fiberoptic system here - for now, I only need converter boxes for HD TV's and ones I want extended channels on. I have a TV in the garage I use for mostly news orr sports when working on stuff, and no box - just standard broadcast channels, albeit much clearer. When 2009 rolls around, all I need is a box - not a new TV.
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George McLellan
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Duluth, MN USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 7:13 am
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Jim S. Thank you for posting that about a converter. It certainly is a best kept secret in this area. I've got several friends that have rushed to Best Buy to get their Didgital TV before the price goes up at the deadline. There's nothing wrong with our TV and a converter box would be less expencive than a new TV and the disposal charge of getting rid of the one we have.
Geo |
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Joe Butcher
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Dallas,Texas, USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 8:10 am
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Or you could just throw your TV set out the window and go play some music.
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David L. Donald
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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 8:14 am
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As much as the TV manufacturers would like EVERYONE,
to buy a new on, It ain't happening.
There are too many analog sets, and too many small
jobber companies perfectly happy to cobble together
a decent design to convert the signals.
And way too many people who can afford a'box',
but not a new set.
Think back to the transition from BnW to Color,
or the addition of those UHF channels to the old VHF channels.
Not eveybody did it that week.
Some still used that old BnW set with a UHF box on top
long after the living room had a Color VHF/UHF set installed.
Fear not; the market will provide, and price it to fit.
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DLD, Chili farmer. Plus bananas and papaya too.
Real happiness has no strings attached.
But pedal steels have many! |
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Greg Simmons
From:
where the buffalo (used to) roam AND the Mojave
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 9:47 am
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| You guy shoulda been saying this about 8 years ago. |
Actually, Paul asked about 4 years ago and it seems many at that time still had a preference for VHS 
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum15/HTML/003630.html
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Ron !
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 5:29 pm
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Digital....Smigital....who has digital hearing here?There is nothing like that crispy fire you hear when you put on a old 45 or 33.
Nostalgic! |
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 8:45 pm Re: Notice
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| I use a Sony mini-disk unit. I really like it. |
So do I. I have five of them, plus two portables, and a Yamaha MD8, which puts 8 channels onto MD Data Disks. |
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Joe Butcher
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Dallas,Texas, USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 11:22 pm
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Not surprising. Some of the answers to his post were hilarious. One guy said that VHS was more popular. Thats funny. I couldnt find a VHS tape at Blockbuster 4 years ago.
Maybe he meant "more popular than hieroglyphics."
I can kind of understand though. I mean, who dosent love sitting there with thier thumb on the fast forward button for what seems like an eternity, or adjusting tracking, or the nice bulkiness of VHS tapes, or cleaning the heads on thier VCR? Plus DVD players are too expensive. I saw one the other day for $40 at Wal Mart.
I hope all this new technology dosent put a crimp in my plans to release a project called "The Best of Faded Love." Its going to be a cassette-only box set with over 2,500 versions of Faded Love played by aging steelers with out-of-sync drum machines. I'm hoping it will draw in the young crowd.
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David L. Donald
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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 29 Jul 2007 12:53 am
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There are DVD players for sale here for 880 baht or $26.50.
No region encoding so everything plays.
My sister actually knocked one off the TV
the last night of her stay on the island.
It was dark, and the unit not even vaguely
mounted in place, with the light switch behind it.
She told them this happened the next AM
and offered to pay for it, they laughed
and said 'don't worry about it',
and sent a kid in the back for another one.
Seem they had bought 30 for $18 a piece and
were more worried about losing return business
for the resort than the cost of the DVD player.
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Real happiness has no strings attached.
But pedal steels have many! |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2007 10:45 am
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When you're creating a new product, you have to aim for the future, not the present.
True story: In the late 1980's, 5.25" floppy disks were being replaced by the smaller 3.5" floppies that held more than twice as much data. My company's software product shipped as a package of 5.25" floppies. I wanted to switch to the 3.5" format because it would be easier and cheaper to manufacture. Some marketing genius took a survey of our dealers, and 60% of them favored the 5.25" format because that's what their existing customers were using. Guess what happened...
Same company: our paint software always required two monitors because the typical computer system monitor wasn't capable of decent color. VGA was on it's way in, though. I gave a presentation on how to port our 2-screen software onto a single-screen VGA platform. The user wouldn't have to buy an expensive frame buffer and extra monitor, and we could make deals with VGA manufacturers to bundle our software. The same marketing genius said "I can't make a business case for selling software at less than $800 per copy." Guess what happened...
That company went out of business about 3 years later. They let me go first, though. I was a troublemaker, I guess.
The key in developing successful new products in today's fast-moving world is to aim at a future market. Anyone making tapes today is clearly doomed. There is no new tape technology on the horizon, and the market for tape products is rapidly shrinking.
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 29 Jul 2007 3:18 pm
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...but why does it have to be that when two technologies are being presented to the public, the inferior system always seems to win out.
BetaMax was superior to VHS: VHS won.
8mm Video was superior to VHS: 8mm never caught on for movies, but VHS died out for Camcorders.
Reel-to-Reel was superior to Cassettes: Cassettes won.
Regular 8 movies, and 9.5 movies had a better mechanism that Super-8: Super-8 won.
MiniDisks were better than Cassettes: CDs won !
Now we're told, after they've persuaded people to rebuy DVD versions of VHS movies they already have, that the current DVD format will soon be obsolete.
Even television is overdue for planned obsolescence. Within a few years there will be nothing broadcast which today's TVs can pick up. |
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Robert Harper
From:
Alabama, USA
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Posted 10 Aug 2007 1:47 pm New Technology
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| You do know guys that technology is and has changed so fast, it is difficult and expensive (real) to keep up. Someone used the Word legacy. doesn't that mean old, Hmm isn't that me? |
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David L. Donald
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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 10 Aug 2007 7:27 pm
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It is darned hard to find 2" tape by most reports.
I am glad I got out of reel to reeel nearly a decade ago.
I still have a DAT player,
but getting harder to find tapes,
and I rarely use it.
I have a Mini disc player to replace a Mini DAT player.
I use the Zoom H4 instead;
less hassle, more secure, no moving parts,
all data on Mini SD cards.
I do shoot photos on film, but only for film effects.
The digital Canon that I gave Chacha for xmas
is as good as most any thing I have seen.
My only complaint is the lack of INSTANT shooting.
Just want a high end digital Nikon to use my good lenses on.
End of story.
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DLD, Chili farmer. Plus bananas and papaya too.
Real happiness has no strings attached.
But pedal steels have many! |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 11 Aug 2007 3:06 am
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Bob, sorry to hear you lost your job for thinking ahead..
I recall two specific fists raised arguments I had , one with my Sister in Law ( she would have won the fight ) over which PC format was going to last beyond the 80.s I said the IBM DOS based format with hard Drives and floppys and she said no, it would be the Commodore or something like that...she was insisting that the IBM DOS based format PC with Hard Drives and floppy's would put everyone out of business.
the other fist fight was over the VHS vs Beta Max...
I love winning... |
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