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Jamie Lennon
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Posted 23 Jul 2007 9:34 am |
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For interested this is Pauls Setup in the studio
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Jack Stanton
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Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
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Posted 23 Jul 2007 10:22 am
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Whoa, that must be one lively room!
Is that Paul's speaker cabs with the mike on them? Any idea what they are? They kind of look like Marshalls. |
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Mark Eaton
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Posted 23 Jul 2007 10:32 am
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There was a thread awhile back about how long it takes to get oneself set up for a gig.
There's a lot going on in that photo - I wonder how long it takes Paul to get that whole scenario ready?
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Ray Jenkins
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Posted 23 Jul 2007 3:54 pm
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| Mark Eaton wrote: |
There was a thread awhile back about how long it takes to get oneself set up for a gig.
There's a lot going on in that photo - I wonder how long it takes Paul to get that whole scenario ready? |
It don't take him anytime,someone else is paid to do it.
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John Lacey
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Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 26 Jul 2007 2:36 pm
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| Would it be possible for someone to offer some particulars about his setup? Paul? |
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John Macy
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Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 26 Jul 2007 9:07 pm
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Looks like the live room at The Tracking Room studios...
For sessions like that, he has cartage--it's pretty well setup for him before he walks in... 
Pair of Sennheiser 421's on the cabinets... The cabs are older 2-12" Peavey's, but I believe there are only the top 12" speakers installed...
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Jerry Erickson
From:
Atlanta,IL 61723
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Posted 26 Jul 2007 10:45 pm
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| Is that a AKG C-12 for a talkback mic? |
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Wade Branch
From:
Weatherford, Texas, USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 5:10 am
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Is that Mexican satillio tile under his equipment ?  |
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Dan Tyack
From:
Olympia, WA USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 6:13 am
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| I think everybody agrees that the taupe tile sounds the best. |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 6:49 am
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Dan, you have to have the "black" tiles too for the right sound.  |
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Emmett Roch
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Texas Hill Country
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 9:09 am
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Black tiles with white grout (for the highs).
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Stu Schulman
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 10:47 am
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Macy posts right after Lacy...is that a first?
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 11:00 am
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| Ray Jenkins wrote: |
| Mark Eaton wrote: |
There was a thread awhile back about how long it takes to get oneself set up for a gig.
There's a lot going on in that photo - I wonder how long it takes Paul to get that whole scenario ready? |
It don't take him anytime,someone else is paid to do it. |
All kidding aside, I personally find that unlikely. We know that in major touring bands, guitarists, steel or otherwise have guitar techs and roadies, but I wouldn't think that Paul has someone driving with him to downtown Nashville to lend a hand.
I'm sure he gets some help when he arrives at the studio - but that rig looks like one of those deals where it would take less time to set it up yourself than instructing a studio employee how to do it, then keeping your eye on them to make sure everything is done correctly.
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Johan Jansen
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Europe
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 11:24 am
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As far as I know, a truck drives from studio to studio to haul around with the rig....
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Stephen Silver
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 11:50 am
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It's called cartage, gentlemen, and who ever is paying for the session gets that tacked on. Generally only the best A list players get cartage.
It is not uncommon for a busy player to have 2 complete rigs that a cartage company (Studio Instrument Rentals for example) keep at their facility and leap frog deliver on a 3-4 session day.
Drummers have large cases where the kit is basically already set up. They just pull it out of the case. Could be the same for pedal steel setups too.
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 12:09 pm
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| Steohen is correct. Cartage is part of the studio expense for the A players. I've witnessed this myself and its quite a sight. The studio musician just calls the cartage company and instructs them on what they need brought over for the sessiion. I've seen drummers with literally 8 snare drums using different ones on different songs. |
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 12:15 pm
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Quite a change from the days when, in reading an account of Lloyd Green during the years when he worked five plus days a week in the studio, he'd pull up in his vehicle, load his steel case and amp onto a hand truck, and wheel it into the building
I wonder if the cartage guys are responsible for setting up Paul's rig and getting everything connected properly?
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Ray Minich
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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 1:01 pm
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| I like the tall ATA road case for the effects and processor units. Gets everything up to eyeball heighth so's you don't have to bend over all the time. |
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Larry Bowen
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Anderson, SC USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 2:00 pm
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Big change from the day in 1956 when I saw the Big E
pull up in a cadillac with Ernest Tubb at a High School in Hartwell, GA with a dog house bass on top..
After the show, I walked up on the stage and he let me play his steel....He was really nice to a young kid....
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 2:06 pm
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The Big E was pretty young himself in '56.
Like about 19!
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 2:30 pm
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| spoiled primadonnas |
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Jamie Lennon
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 4:34 pm
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| chris ivey wrote: |
| spoiled primadonnas |
They deserve to be spoilt !!!
They have earned it 
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Bill Hatcher
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Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 5:51 pm
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| spoiled primadonnas |
You don't understand the A team studio musicians routine. There are days when he will have multiple sessions at different studios. While he is doing one, the cartage company has his second rig at the next studio getting it ready for him. This also takes the wear and tear off his hands so that when he sits down to play, he has not stretched his tendons and muscles to a point where things don't feel right. This is standard business practice to have cartage companies loading in gear and the cost is covered by the record company or whoever is footing the bill for the session.
In regards to the "old days" of Green and Emmons, the recording set ups were MUCH more simple and the songs being recorded were more simple. The only needed a guitar, a cord, a volume pedal and an amp. In regards to Green, he even took off the stuff from the back neck to make his rig lighter and easier to carry and he made his Twin two sections for ease of carrying it. I bet you that Green would have opted for a cartage company in a NY minute.
These guys are not spoiled "primadonnas". Your just jealous of them. This is business and very smart at that. |
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Kyle Everson
From:
Nashville, Tennessee
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 5:55 pm
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| I've seen demo players get it too. I think it's mostly just transportation to the next session, especially if the majority of the guys all have the same session coming up. |
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John Macy
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Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 27 Jul 2007 6:57 pm
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Most cartage is Nashville is around $150/player--so that adds about $750+ for a master session to the budget(drums, bass, 2 guitar players and steel--sometimes keys, too if they are playing more than acoustic piano...most fiddle players carry their own stuff). One guitar player I use rig has about 35+ electrics, 15+ acoutics, 4-6 amp heads, 2-4+ speaker cabs, a couple of combo amps, pedalboards etc. How much gets setup depends on the player--some guitar players have their main axes out on the stand before they get there and some don't. I know drummers that have multiple kits and as many as 30 snare drums delivered...
For the most part, demo sessions don't have the budget for cartage, so many players have a stripped down rig that they take to those session...
I never mind paying the cartage on sessions I produce--not only is the player fresher by not having to deal with the gear, but the sonic possibilities are endless... In the context of a record budget, $750 seems like a deal...
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